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 May 14, 2011, 11:48:34 PM
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3 GIFs below watch the woman standing second to the right of the hard-hat man (names has escaped me, i think Milican), her hand movement.  crop + slow motion  hand movement only, frames numbered  if you can't see the animations let me know.
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May 15, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
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May 16, 2011, 02:23:01 PM
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Altgens 6 From memory it's A.J. Millican, Alonzo, Woodward, Donaldson, Brown Gerda i beleive that your woman would be the one with the glasses in the dark dress ( Woodward ) Don's plat As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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« Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 02:34:57 PM by Robin Unger »
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May 16, 2011, 03:56:11 PM
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Altgens 6 From memory it's A.J. Millican, Alonzo, Woodward, Donaldson, Brown Gerda i beleive that your woman would be the one with the glasses in the dark dress ( Woodward ) Don's plat As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginThank you, Robin i've studied Don Roberdeau's map and he has one name left out, the person next to Millican (hard-hat). Do you know if this is a mistake by Don or is that person unknown ? crop of Don Roberdeau's DP map, red arrow+? added by me: 
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« Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 03:57:01 PM by Gerry_Dark »
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May 16, 2011, 05:00:15 PM
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thanks Miles, brilliant ! copied and saved. the woman next to hard hat man in the white top, between Millican and Alonzo, she is not seen in Altgens 6 (guess because of the perspective). The woman colored by me in serpia, is she holding something to her eyes, and is that a pretty large bag around her hips. Would she be Donaldson ? I lost count after Woodward in Altgens 6 
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« Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 05:10:30 PM by Gerry_Dark »
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May 16, 2011, 11:09:22 PM
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Gerda. I understood that the woman in white was Alonzo. ? I think you can see her left cheek, and the fringe of her hair just to the left of Millican's hat ? 
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May 16, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
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Gerda. I understood that the woman in white was Alonzo. ? I think you can see her left cheek, and the fringe of her hair just to the left of Millican's hat ? oh yes, you're right Robin, i now see her. thanks Robin & Gary
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August 24, 2011, 04:06:10 AM
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Hey Mark I have to respectfully disagree with your statement above. The "shadow" area arrives in this woman's location after what looks to be her arm "bending up backwards at the elbow" to its highest point. We all know this is a physical impossibility. Elbows are not made to bend backwards. So the question is what is causing this impossibility in the Zapruder film.  Best to you Rick What it looks like, to me at least, is her bending her arm up the way you'd bend your arm to scratch your back. I do it all the time, maybe some people aren't as flexible. There's a similar movement in Yoga where you have to twist/bend your arms that way.
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December 23, 2011, 02:44:39 AM
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As soon as I saw your great animations I knew that you had found Peggy Hawkins, who was standing on the north curb of Elm with her small child. The kid can be seen between Hawkins and the woman to her right, dressed apparently all in white, actually standing between his/her mother and the street. Hawkins first puts her right hand to her face, then drops it to her side. An instant later, her child's left arm moves upwards, BETWEEN HER/HIS MOTHER'S ARM AND HER BODY, in a kind of embrace. Years ago I looked for Hawkins and her child, in Betzner, Willis, Altens, Croft, etc., but nothing. Might have known they would show up in the old Z film.
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