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3 GIFs below watch the woman standing second to the right of the hard-hat man (names has escaped me, i think Milican), her hand movement.  crop + slow motion  hand movement only, frames numbered  if you can't see the animations let me know.
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May 15, 2011, 12:41:10 AM
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3 GIFs below watch the woman standing second to the right of the hard-hat man (names has escaped me, i think Milican), her hand movement. crop + slow motion hand movement only, frames numbered if you can't see the animations let me know. Gerda Very nice find on whatever this might be  After watching these animations over and over again, the only thought which came to mind was maybe there was a small child standing in front of her. And possibly what we're seeing is the arm of a child reaching around as if to put their arm around her? I then checked the Willis 5 photograph, which shows Hard Hat Man, and this woman second from his right in Willis...second from his left as we view Willis 5. I do not easily see any child standing in front of this woman. Can you? I'm baffled by your animations and find  Nice job Gerda and once again you have displayed your keen eye my friend  Best to you Rick As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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May 15, 2011, 11:56:50 AM
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Rick, i don't see a child in front of that woman, at least not in Willis 05, maybe there is one and other images show that. I think that arm/hand belongs to the red-blonde woman next to her, she wears what appears to be a vest and a white blouse. She has her left arm hanging down and from frame 81 onwards raises her arm infront of the other woman's back.  PS: i think i can see waht appears to be a cigarette inbetween her fingers....  PSē: if i look at the large animation which shows all bystanders between the TSBD and the freeway sign at Elm, you see that everyone is moving and is doing something. So the agrument by people who say this part of Z is a fake and that the spectators are not or hardly moving is wrong.
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« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 04:10:03 PM by Gerry_Dark »
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May 15, 2011, 05:22:14 PM
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I think it might be an artifact from a different area of the film??? The abnormality seems to happen when the "shadow" part of the film falls on that woman's location.
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Hey Mark I have to respectfully disagree with your statement above. The "shadow" area arrives in this woman's location after what looks to be her arm "bending up backwards at the elbow" to its highest point. We all know this is a physical impossibility. Elbows are not made to bend backwards. So the question is what is causing this impossibility in the Zapruder film. Best to you Rick
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May 15, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
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that is correct, the arm moves before the sprocket hole area sets in. I think it is the arm of the redblonde woman next to her. And it appears that she has something lengthy between her fingers, maybe a cigarette or a cuban cigar  rough outline:  Gerda I agree the arm moves upward before the sprocket ghost area sets in. However, I do not see this as the left arm of the strawberry blond woman to her right either. I think that it would have to be seen making an outward to inward sweeping motion and upwards to be hers, and also she would have to rotate her body/upper torso counterclockwise to perform such a move with her left arm if in fact it was hers. I'm not seeing that at all. In fact, in later frames she and basically everyone else are turning their bodies in a clockwise direction. Arms have a great range of motion, but the elbow can only bend or flex one way. Anything else requires either clockwise or counter clockwise rotation of the entire arm at the same time.. And in this case it would also require body/upper torso rotation if this were the other woman's arm. I am just not seeing that. The only explanation I could come up with at this point would have to be either manipulation or alteration of the Zapruder film. How else can one explain what your animations show? Best to you my friend Rick
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May 15, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
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It's the woman with the short white shirt at her left elbows arm that is moving up behind the woman with darker clothings back. The anomoly is all down to severely blurred frames, and has absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or alteration. Removing the blurred frames makes it all clear. John Costella discovered this anomoly years ago, and claimed it was proof of Zapruder fakery. I told him, or maybe it was Jim Fetzer, that he was wrong, and gave the above explanation. The response given was that I was wrong, so maybe I am wrong, after all, Costella is Jim Fetzer's expert on the Zapruder film.  
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May 15, 2011, 08:11:39 PM
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It's the woman with the short white shirt at her left elbows arm that is moving up behind the woman with darker clothings back. The anomoly is all down to severely blurred frames, and has absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or alteration. Removing the blurred frames makes it all clear. John Costella discovered this anomoly years ago, and claimed it was proof of Zapruder fakery. I told him, or maybe it was Jim Fetzer, that he was wrong, and gave the above explanation. The response given was that I was wrong, so maybe I am wrong, after all, Costella is Jim Fetzer's expert on the Zapruder film. rofl your animation ends where the "anomalie" begins. But i agree by now that it is the arm of the redblonde woman.
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May 15, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
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your animation ends where the "anomalie" begins. But i agree by now that it is the arm of the redblonde woman.
I know, Gerry, I had to do it that way to show the movement clearly. I think she is in the process of raising her left arm and hand towards her right arm and hand to start clapping, and that her arm does not actually go behind the darker clothed woman's back. This is just a perspective issue from Zapruder's viewpoint, where she appears to be closer to the darker clothed woman than she appears to be in Zapruder's film.
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May 15, 2011, 08:45:29 PM
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your animation ends where the "anomalie" begins. But i agree by now that it is the arm of the redblonde woman.
I know, Gerry, I had to do it that way to show the movement clearly. I think she is in the process of raising her left arm and hand towards her right arm and hand to start clapping, and that her arm does not actually go behind the darker clothed woman's back. This is just a perspective issue from Zapruder's viewpoint, where she appears to be closer to the darker clothed woman than she appears to be in Zapruder's film. I do not see it that way at all. I can see the back side of the strawberry blond's upper left forearm in dark shadow...up against her torso. Look at your short animation and you should see this.
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