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 March 30, 2011, 03:03:54 AM
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Well, somebody did it.
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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March 30, 2011, 03:54:17 AM
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The ejected matter on the trunk of the limousine can be seen in many frames before z312, like z304:  and could not have come from the head shot at z312 but could only have been cause by Robert's shot at z285. The ejected matter that resembles an antenna was a part of JFK's back brace that was flung backwards.
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September 24, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
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  Looks like antenna bases.
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September 24, 2011, 05:37:20 PM
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If you look closely at the B&W Miles posted, between the 2 upright sides of the left hand rail mounted on the trunk lid, there are a few small light particles that appear to be something on the paint, the first ever evidence I've ever seen of any possible brain matter on the trunk. But it's not much and certainly does nothing for a rear blowout theory, it simply is not enough quanity. It can't be said it is head shot debris, although if not than I can't imagine what else it could be.
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"you're the cop, you figure it out"
-Lee H. Oswald to Dallas Police detectives, weekend
of 11-22-63.
"Part of the reason why we avoided talking about this thing, because every time you say something, somebody misinterprets what you say."
-James. J. Humes, excerpt of ARRB statement, 2-13-96
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September 28, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
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Thanks... been trying to find better photos of the trunk with "gore" on it...
More importantly though is Mike's claim there was blood and such to the front of the hood... I've heard it but have not seen anything to support it...
Are there any photos showing the limo's hood with all this "gore" Mike described? I have yet to see or find one.
and given that a small amount of blood hit the men behind and to the left.... much of this gore remained in the limo, on the seat back and seat itself....
but nothing suggests - so far at least - that the hood was "covered"
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"given the small amount of blood that hit the men behind and to the left" David why would you accept this, even though there is no photos of this either? The physical film evidence supports Frazier's claim. I do agree that the ejecta to the rear on the officers was minimal.
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Marsh can not even comprehend a simple time stamp. How will he ever comprehend the evidence?
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September 28, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
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The ejected matter on the trunk of the limousine can be seen in many frames before z312, like z304: and could not have come from the head shot at z312 but could only have been cause by Robert's shot at z285. The ejected matter that resembles an antenna was a part of JFK's back brace that was flung backwards. You mean the shot that he said missed?
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September 29, 2011, 12:03:07 AM
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Looks like antenna bases. Yes, but I don't think the ones at the Ford Museum are the ORIGINAL antenna bases. I have the photos which no one has seen of them installing the communications equipment on the limo when it was delivered to the WH. But I have some technical questions that only an expert can answer. For example, did they need both antennas for the hi-band two-way radio or was one for one channel and the other for the other channel. I assume the long antenna is for the radio, but when I look at the radio it looks like only AM. Was it only FM? Did his telephone use the same antenna as the agents Motorola radio or would it need its own antenna? My father was an electronics expert, but he died before I found these photos. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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November 23, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
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The two antenna mounts on the trunk look like standard vhf high band for that time period. I would assume one is cut for somewhere in the 162-169 mhz gov't band the SS utilized. I would guess the other is a mobile telephone antenna for that era. Probably operated somewhere in the 150-172 band most likely. All communication would be simplex and you would have to call a mobile telephone operator to access a landline. The antenna closest to the camera looks like a standard broadcast antenna. Whether the car had a am or am/fm radio would probably be an option in that time period, most likely am only. On the interior of the car is a control head portion of a Motorola radio. (volume, squelch, channel selector). The guts of these radios, (tansmitter) would be mounted in the trunk of the vehicle. I doubt the president's car could even communicate with the lead car, Chief Curry was in. Primitive to say the least, but technical advances wouldn't be for years later. Question for someone, were the SS in radio contact at all that day with Dallas PD?
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December 20, 2011, 10:27:28 PM
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The radio for the limo passengers, which was in a niche next to Mrs. Kennedy behind the rear door, had to be modified so that the pushbutton channel changers (standard at the time) would fit properly. They used a stock '61 Lincoln Continental radio, so whatever that was, AM, FM or both, is what was in the car. I happen to believe that that passenger radio was switchable to an identical niche at the right end of the back seat, which is why there was another antenna mount but no antenna on the right rear fender top. These antenna mounts were stock body trim parts, and were also used on the front fenders for the two flags. I could go on and on and on and on and...........Suffice it to say that your photo of the car's interior radio setup is wonderful to me, and if you have other similar pics that the world hasn't seen, by all means post them.
The best photo by far of the limo interior is the Corbis version on the jfkassassinationgallery site, taken by Dillard at Love Field. You can see the passenger radio, AND it's speaker, partially obscured by the seat.
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