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Every thoughtful person I know thinks OJ was guilty, myself included. The relevance of referring to the Simpson case in relation to JFK is clear: It stands in bold contrast to the other notorious murder investigation where, in this case, there can be no rational debate. By consensus, we understand that OJ was guilty as hell and he got away with murder. The evidence is overwhelming. Only the very determined, uninformed or mentally impaired could possibly believe otherwise. As George Tenet might say, it's a slam-dunk. If you are the kind of person who neither questions nor ever reevaluates why you believe what you believe, you might want to skip this. If you are not, you may be comforted by the knowledge that you're not alone. I thought there was no substantive argument to be made. I was wrong. Interesting feeling.
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Oswald and the CIA, 2008 ed., John M. Newman
Deep Politics ll, 2003 ed., Peter Dale Scott
Our Man In Mexico... 2008, Jefferson Morley
Wilderness of Mirrors, 1980, David C. Martin
JFK and Vietnam, 1992, John M. Newman
JFK and the Unspeakable, 2009, James W.Douglass
Brothers, 2007, David Talbot
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February 13, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
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Every thoughtful person I know thinks OJ was guilty, myself included. The relevance of referring to the Simpson case in relation to JFK is clear: It stands in bold contrast to the other notorious murder investigation where, in this case, there can be no rational debate. By consensus, we understand that OJ was guilty as hell and he got away with murder. The evidence is overwhelming. Only the very determined, uninformed or mentally impaired could possibly believe otherwise. As George Tenet might say, it's a slam-dunk. If you are the kind of person who neither questions nor ever reevaluates why you believe what you believe, you might want to skip this. If you are not, you may be comforted by the knowledge that you're not alone. I thought there was no substantive argument to be made. I was wrong. Interesting feeling.  Old news, and its been laughable for a long time. I saw your list of books at the bottom of your page. Nough said.
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What is silly is thinking that two turns that reduced the speed of the car to 8-11 m.p.h. is no big deal when motorcades are suppose to keep a 44 m.p.h. speed..R Caprio
LHO had poor hand-eye coordination and proof of this is seen in the fact he couldn't drive an automobile-- R Caprio
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February 13, 2011, 09:55:49 PM
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Really missed the posts "brian " Apart from his defense team who else tried to obstruct the case by removing half the evidence and hiding any testimony for 50 years?. Lets get this into perspective .Judging by the books you have read all you know is pigs are pink and the wolf is a baddy 
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February 13, 2011, 10:19:32 PM
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Being dead certain and dead wrong, that happens sometimes, but not with me in the JFK case on the whole.
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February 14, 2011, 04:24:05 AM
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Sorry Chris I hate to be the one to inform you but you are dead wrong on this, Oswald shot Kennedy like a dog in the street, he went to work, sat by a window, pointed his rifle out of it and shot an arrogant president that had no business riding in an open vehicle in that area, there are plenty of Oswald's out there , if you give them an easy shot at the pres they are going to take it, it would happen today just the same if security was not tighter, doesn't matter who the pres is or was, they are just shooting at the title, there was no conspiracy , Oswald did it. Sorry
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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February 14, 2011, 06:47:24 PM
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Sorry Chris I hate to be the one to inform you but you are dead wrong on this, Oswald shot Kennedy like a dog in the street, he went to work, sat by a window, pointed his rifle out of it and shot an arrogant president that had no business riding in an open vehicle in that area, there are plenty of Oswald's out there , if you give them an easy shot at the pres they are going to take it, it would happen today just the same if security was not tighter, doesn't matter who the pres is or was, they are just shooting at the title, there was no conspiracy , Oswald did it. Sorry
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Marsh can not even comprehend a simple time stamp. How will he ever comprehend the evidence?
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February 14, 2011, 08:17:40 PM
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Bruno Magli size 12 shoe print in the blood.
Cuts on OJ's hand.
Blood in his vehicle
Blood in the foyer of his house
OJ's suicide note
It's amazing the amount of evidence that was stacked up against OJ. The Furman tapes saved OJ. Bottom line. The fact that Fuhrman used a racial slur years before outweighed the fact that there was NO WAY Fuhrman could of planted evidence.
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February 14, 2011, 10:05:29 PM
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The fact that Fuhrman used a racial slur years before outweighed the fact that there was NO WAY Fuhrman could of planted evidence.
Doesn't look like your very familiar with the case. Furman was the first one into OJ's property...illegally I might add. The "gloves" that were conveniently dropped at #! the murder scene and #2 at OJ's place were far to small for OJ's hands, as was demonstrated very clearly in court. It would be like me trying to put one of Eve's gloves on..OJ got his fingers in the gloves and that was about all. Furman was a racist, pure and simple and getting one black "witness" to say he had helped them sure wasn't enough to convince me.
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February 14, 2011, 11:33:14 PM
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The fact that Fuhrman used a racial slur years before outweighed the fact that there was NO WAY Fuhrman could of planted evidence.
Doesn't look like your very familiar with the case. Furman was the first one into OJ's property...illegally I might add. The "gloves" that were conveniently dropped at #! the murder scene and #2 at OJ's place were far to small for OJ's hands, as was demonstrated very clearly in court. It would be like me trying to put one of Eve's gloves on..OJ got his fingers in the gloves and that was about all. Furman was a racist, pure and simple and getting one black "witness" to say he had helped them sure wasn't enough to convince me. Actually, I'm fairly versed on the OJ case. Fuhrman wasn't the first at the scene at Nicole's bungalow. In fact, he wasn't even in the top 15 of authorities to arrive. By the time he got there the scene had been well documented. One glove only. So, tell me how in the world, before heading over to OJs, he could fabricate another blood covered glove? One that looked exactly like the one at the crime scene all with matching DNA of Nicole, Ron and OJ. How would he even have OJs blood if OJ were innocent? Plus, he wasn't the only officer to decide go into OJ's estate. Was he walking around with his fabricated, blood stained glove in his back pocking while talking to other officers about entering the premises? It wasn't illegal for them to go into the estate. They had probable cause due to the blood on the Bronco and on the estate grounds. Simply put, no matter if he was racist or not...it was impossible for him to plant the glove. He didn't have the time to fabricate one and he couldn't have stolen one from the murder scene. As far as how small the gloves were....you know the answers there.
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February 15, 2011, 12:56:48 AM
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The fact that Fuhrman used a racial slur years before outweighed the fact that there was NO WAY Fuhrman could of planted evidence.
Doesn't look like your very familiar with the case. Furman was the first one into OJ's property...illegally I might add. The "gloves" that were conveniently dropped at #! the murder scene and #2 at OJ's place were far to small for OJ's hands, as was demonstrated very clearly in court. It would be like me trying to put one of Eve's gloves on..OJ got his fingers in the gloves and that was about all. Furman was a racist, pure and simple and getting one black "witness" to say he had helped them sure wasn't enough to convince me. Actually, I'm fairly versed on the OJ case. Fuhrman wasn't the first at the scene at Nicole's bungalow. In fact, he wasn't even in the top 15 of authorities to arrive. By the time he got there the scene had been well documented. One glove only. So, tell me how in the world, before heading over to OJs, he could fabricate another blood covered glove? One that looked exactly like the one at the crime scene all with matching DNA of Nicole, Ron and OJ. How would he even have OJs blood if OJ were innocent? Plus, he wasn't the only officer to decide go into OJ's estate. Was he walking around with his fabricated, blood stained glove in his back pocking while talking to other officers about entering the premises? It wasn't illegal for them to go into the estate. They had probable cause due to the blood on the Bronco and on the estate grounds. Simply put, no matter if he was racist or not...it was impossible for him to plant the glove. He didn't have the time to fabricate one and he couldn't have stolen one from the murder scene. As far as how small the gloves were....you know the answers there. Another thing that is always overlooked in this case. The cops didn't even know where OJ was when if you listen to the nuts the cops wen't over to frame OJ. He could have been at a resturant with 100 people ( and everyone would remembere OJ ). But the cops just decided for some reason to go over there and frame a guy who they ddin't happen to know where he was at the time of the murder. Are you kidding me.
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February 15, 2011, 02:13:56 AM
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Another thing that is always overlooked in this case. The cops didn't even know where OJ was Of course they did...being a celebrity, I don't doubt many people knew OJ was heading for Chicago (I think it was Chicago anyway) and certainly any cop...especially a racist cop who wanted to frame OJ could have found that out easy enough. That way when Nicole (a white woman married to a black man...and therefore in a racists eyes even worse than a black person) was murdered, having OJ leaving town wouldn't look good. Actually, I'm fairly versed on the OJ case. Furman wasn't the first at the scene at Nicole's bungalow. I wasn't talking about at Nicole's place although Furman was among the first there...remember he got in a bit of hot water for his remarks about her boobs. But what I was talking about was Furman WAS THE 1ST to enter OJ's residence. His Lt. couldn't make it over the wall, so Furman, being younger and in better shape went alone. He had more than enough chances to plant evidence...to bad for him he was so incompetent and used gloves that were far to small for OJ's hands.
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