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 February 11, 2009, 05:38:35 AM
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Here is something I just finished working on for about an hour or so. This work and animation is in it's early stages. Using Zapruder frames 473-478, I first did a rough enhancement for gamma and some slight tweaks in contrast on a few of the 6 frames. Then...I painstakingly try to "cut" from precisely the same location in each of the 6 frames. Some of the frames are slightly blurred, which will make this animated gif seem a little choppy while playing. The cutout from frame 478 was reinserted four more times at the end of the animation to help show where the animation ends. I have also attached Zapruder frame 478 with two yellow boxes I added in. They are two areas of important interest, because they seem to show movement within this animation. The yellow box to the left... to my eyes at least... appears to be the head/face of a man from approx. the top of his shoulders up. He appears to first turn slightly towards his right beginning with frame 473, then back to the left ending with his head in profile facing towards Elm Street in frame 478.
The second yellow box to the right...to me at least...appears to possibly be a grayish colored hat (?) and seems to move in a northwest to southeast direction. If anyone is seeing what my eyes are seeing, please post your observations and comments. I intend to spend much more time on this in the coming days. I hope to add in more frames IF possible, and try to stabilize the choppiness as much as possible. Maybe even speed up the animation if I have luck in its appearance hat;; Again...comments are welcomed and appreciated.
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February 11, 2009, 04:03:04 PM
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I must admit that I've never been entirely convinced about a shooter from the knoll position but this has swayed my thinking big time!!! Need to go back and check out Bowers' story...he said he saw 2 men (he didn't know, who were strangers to him) there...I wonder if the movement on the left is a person standing on the fender of a car raising himself up and that's why there's the up & down movement - certainly seems to get much higher than (what would appear to be) the person to the left as if he's standing on something...??
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February 11, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
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I must admit that I've never been entirely convinced about a shooter from the knoll position but this has swayed my thinking big time!!! Need to go back and check out Bowers' story...he said he saw 2 men (he didn't know, who were strangers to him) there...I wonder if the movement on the left is a person standing on the fender of a car raising himself up and that's why there's the up & down movement - certainly seems to get much higher than (what would appear to be) the person to the left as if he's standing on something...??
Ian, Please remember these are just six Zapruder frames (473-478) along with frame 478 inserted four more times at the end to help distinguish an ending point for my animated gif. So we are seeing ten frames in all looped over and over again. Zapruders movie camera ran at 18 frames per second, so six frames (473-478) are the equivalent to a mere 1/3 of a second of actual visual movement we're seeing. And I do not think I have the animation running the equivalent of 18 frames per second...maybe more like 20 or more. Hard to say as the software program I am using to make these does not show an actual "frame rate" setting. Just an adjustable number value that does not show an actual "frame rate per second". It's the looping of the animated gif which gives it the look of up and down movement. Until hopefully I can attempt to add in more frames, it's hard to say what the actual movement is of the person to the far right :-\
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February 11, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
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Sorry Rick, but I'm not as enthusiastic and "gentleman" as Martin, Ian, John, David and Robin. In fact in the original sequence (without repeating more times the same frames)  I don't see the head of a man at all. If I don't see anything in the original sequence, why should I see something looking at the same images repeated more times? Theoretically I should see “nothing” more times!!! I believe that your work, although honestly done, risks to be deceptive. Said that, I want to specify to you that like you I’m absolutely convinced of a human presence behind the fence. That is shown by Nix film and the testimony of Lee Bowers. Then, to conclude, I see the head of a man in Nix film but not in Zapruder one. However, congratulations Rick. Regards Giuseppe
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February 11, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
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Giuseppe, the clear visibilty of this man depends therefore, Rick used some enhancing methods like Gamma and Contrast like he told.
This enlighten the dark areas.
And he stabelized it with focus to particular area. (What you also did in your fine Conally-wrist scenario)
I did the same here today. I used After Effects and came to the same result as Rick did.
Can't you really not see this man?
Martin
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February 11, 2009, 10:34:14 PM
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Giuseppe, the clear visibilty of this man depends therefore, Rick used some enhancing methods like Gamma and Contrast like he told.
This enlighten the dark areas.
And he stabelized it with focus to particular area. (What you also did in your fine Conally-wrist scenario)
I did the same here today. I used After Effects and came to the same result as Rick did.
Can't you really not see this man?
Martin
Hello Martin. Could you please post your Zapruder frame after your enhancement work?? I would really be very interested in seeing that!! The photo software program I'm using is really quite weak, and I don't think I am very good with photo enhancing. You on the other hand do very nice work!! Also....I did nothing to the focus of these frames. Only gamma lightening and minimal use of contrast enhancing. The time consuming method I use in obtaining "cutouts" from the frames is what helps to stabilize the overall animation...and trying to null out any panning motion of the camera(s). I basically do the old school "cut, copy, and paste" method from each individual frame roll
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February 12, 2009, 01:07:52 AM
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I must admit that I've never been entirely convinced about a shooter from the knoll position but this has swayed my thinking big time!!! Need to go back and check out Bowers' story...he said he saw 2 men (he didn't know, who were strangers to him) there...I wonder if the movement on the left is a person standing on the fender of a car raising himself up and that's why there's the up & down movement - certainly seems to get much higher than (what would appear to be) the person to the left as if he's standing on something...??
My apologies Ian. I stand corrected and I believe that you are right. There is up & down movement. Just what this person is doing is a mystery to me. I have added in another four frames. This animation contains Zapruder frames 469-478. At the end, I added frame 478 an additional six times, for an animation consisting of 16 frames in total. Frames prior to 469 are useless and do not show this entire area behind the stockade fence. Frames after 478 are much too blurry to even consider using :( So this is about the best it will ever get. Note the tree branch in the immediate foreground does seem to sway slightly...perhaps a breeze. As for who I see in the yellow box towards the left and closest to Elm Street seems to be standing still in one spot. I can clearly see his head turn and face towards Elm by the end of the animation. I have also sped up the frame rate to what is close to normal....I think. Rick Needham
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February 12, 2009, 04:19:34 AM
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Rick.
I will invite Chris Davidson to the Forum.
He is the best i have seen when it comes to stabelizing film frames in movies and animations.
Robin, I do not know Chris...but that would be great. Let's hope he'll accept your invitation.
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February 12, 2009, 11:12:46 AM
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Hello Martin. Could you please post your Zapruder frame after your enhancement work?? I would really be very interested in seeing that!! The photo software program I'm using is really quite weak, and I don't think I am very good with photo enhancing. You on the other hand do very nice work!! Also....I did nothing to the focus of these frames. Only gamma lightening and minimal use of contrast enhancing. The time consuming method I use in obtaining "cutouts" from the frames is what helps to stabilize the overall animation...and trying to null out any panning motion of the camera(s). I basically do the old school "cut, copy, and paste" method from each individual frame roll
Hey Rick you did a good "old school" job. After Effects let allow to use a "motion key tracker" but the result is in the end similar. Now as you asked me, i've tried to mask this right far element and colorize it frame by frame to make it the movement very obvious. I realized then this head looks so damn tiny. I mean when you look at the whole Z-frame. I one early frame this head has almost the the same size as Clint Hill on the car trunk. And Hill is at that point much far away. A head at that pint at the fence should be bigger. You mentioned the moving branches. Sure there was a stiff breeze it looks like. Can this be (right rectangle) also a branch and leaves highlighted through the sun? Martin
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February 12, 2009, 12:07:06 PM
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Hello Martin. Could you please post your Zapruder frame after your enhancement work?? I would really be very interested in seeing that!! The photo software program I'm using is really quite weak, and I don't think I am very good with photo enhancing. You on the other hand do very nice work!! Also....I did nothing to the focus of these frames. Only gamma lightening and minimal use of contrast enhancing. The time consuming method I use in obtaining "cutouts" from the frames is what helps to stabilize the overall animation...and trying to null out any panning motion of the camera(s). I basically do the old school "cut, copy, and paste" method from each individual frame roll
Hey Rick you did a good "old school" job. After Effects let allow to use a "motion key tracker" but the result is in the end similar. Now as you asked me, i've tried to mask this right far element and colorize it frame by frame to make it the movement very obvious. I realized then this head looks so damn tiny. I mean when you look at the whole Z-frame. I one early frame this head has almost the the same size as Clint Hill on the car trunk. And Hill is at that point much far away. A head at that pint at the fence should be bigger. You mentioned the moving branches. Sure there was a stiff breeze it looks like. Can this be (right rectangle) also a branch and leaves highlighted through the sun? Martin Martin, could you post a few of your zapruder frames with your photo enhancing?? I would love to see them. Rick Needham
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