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These questions are meant specifically for Rob  Caprio, but any other kook can reply with their own opinions.

In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?
2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?
3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?


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In answer to your first question,The b/yard photo is fake.Therefore it does not matter about any weapon.This photo would be thrown O/O/Court

If it's a fake than how can people claim it does not show Oswald's rifle?


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I used to believe they were fake. But there is no credible evidence of this. These photos have certainly been retouched multiple times prior to publication in certain media, but that is not the same thing as a composite photo made to frame Oswald.


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These questions are meant specifically for Rob  Caprio, but any other kook can reply with their own opinions.

In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?
2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?
3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?


In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

Let this post be used as a case study in a Troll's world!  Tony made a claim, he can't support it with the OFFICIAL evidence that was suppose to support the same claim made in 1964!  So what does the guy do?  He  and claims I said it is all "fake!"  LOL! 

Quote me  saying it is all fake!  I have said the opposite in fact, the existing evidence does NOT support your claim or the WC's claim (which are the same by the way)!

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?

First you have to show they are authentic before you can use them to show anything in regards to LHO.  Can you do this?

2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?

Since it was shown years ago there were numerous rifles with this stamp, so what? 

3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?

I have posted research on this before Tony and it is clear to me the stamps on the two rifles (the one found at the TSBD and the one in the National Archives) have different etchings!  The "C" looks more like a "G" to me and everyone else who has ever viewed it.  The sling mounts are different on the rifle in the BY photos too from the one allegedly found in the TSBD.

I don't have to claim things are fake as they do a miserable job of supporting the claim so I am happy to acknowledge them as evidence!


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In answer to your first question,The b/yard photo is fake.Therefore it does not matter about any weapon.This photo would be thrown O/O/Court

If it's a fake than how can people claim it does not show Oswald's rifle?


I know I have worded it this way distorter -- the rifle in the BY photos is NOT the same as the one found in the TSBD!  We have seen from your inept attempt there is no such thing as a "Oswald's rifle"!  Only shills who want to frame an innocent person use this term.



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I used to believe they were fake. But there is no credible evidence of this. These photos have certainly been retouched multiple times prior to publication in certain media, but that is not the same thing as a composite photo made to frame Oswald.

LOL!  So morphing chins is okay with you?  How about the shadow under the nose showing a different time from the shadow of the body? Or how about the disproportional issues between the body and the head, and the rifle and the body?  There are many others!  The correct statement is there is NO credible evidence showing us these depict LHO posing in them.



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These questions are meant specifically for Rob  Caprio, but any other kook can reply with their own opinions.

In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?
2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?
3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?


In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

Let this post be used as a case study in a Troll's world!  Tony made a claim, he can't support it with the OFFICIAL evidence that was suppose to support the same claim made in 1964!  So what does the guy do?  He  and claims I said it is all "fake!"  LOL! 

Quote me  saying it is all fake!  I have said the opposite in fact, the existing evidence does NOT support your claim or the WC's claim (which are the same by the way)!


Again you lie. I did not say that you already claimed that the backyard photos are fakes. I predicted that you would. And that's exactly what your reply below does.

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?

First you have to show they are authentic before you can use them to show anything in regards to LHO.  Can you do this?

There you go again proving me right. The ONLY way you could weasel out of the question was to claim that they are fake, as you just did.
And YES the HSCA provided that the backyard photos are genuine. So now what do you do, kook?



2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?

Since it was shown years ago there were numerous rifles with this stamp, so what? 


Staying true to your kook roots you refuse to answer the question and weasel out of it by claiming the evidence is fake.
No one proved that there are several Mannlicher-Carcano rifles with the serial number C2766. And how many had exactly the same pattern of wear marks?


3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?

I have posted research on this before Tony and it is clear to me the stamps on the two rifles (the one found at the TSBD and the one in the National Archives) have different etchings!  The "C" looks more like a "G" to me and everyone else who has ever viewed it.  The sling mounts are different on the rifle in the BY photos too from the one allegedly found in the TSBD.


More kook research. Anything to weasel out of admitting simple facts.

I don't have to claim things are fake as they do a miserable job of supporting the claim so I am happy to acknowledge them as evidence!

That is why it is impossible to debate with kooks like you. When confronted with any simple fact all you have to do is claim that all the evidence is fake.

Get one thing straight in your head, clown. You are nobody. You contribute absolutely nothing to research. I don't care what you think and no one else does either.
I have no interest in convincing you of anything, even of the fact that gravity exists. You refuse to accept any facts. You can weasel your way out of anything.
The ONLY reason I waste any time on a piece of crap like you is to show everyone WHY you are wrong so they don't make the same mistakes.



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In answer to your first question,The b/yard photo is fake.Therefore it does not matter about any weapon.This photo would be thrown O/O/Court

Even if the kooks think it (they) is a fake, what do you think the photo shows? Do you think it shows curtain rods? A broom? What? At least come up with either a theory that it shows a different rifle or it was faked to show the rifle found
in the TSBD. Something. You can't just say it shows nothing at all. You're not blind, are you?


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These questions are meant specifically for Rob  Caprio, but any other kook can reply with their own opinions.

In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?
2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?
3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?


In order to limit your ability to weasel out of any argument by claiming that evidence is fake, I need to know what facts you agree on.

Let this post be used as a case study in a Troll's world!  Tony made a claim, he can't support it with the OFFICIAL evidence that was suppose to support the same claim made in 1964!  So what does the guy do?  He  and claims I said it is all "fake!"  LOL! 

Quote me  saying it is all fake!  I have said the opposite in fact, the existing evidence does NOT support your claim or the WC's claim (which are the same by the way)!


Again you lie. I did not say that you already claimed that the backyard photos are fakes. I predicted that you would. And that's exactly what your reply below does.

Tony, your writing leaves a lot to be desired as you are claiming things and attributing them to me. 


1. Do the backyard photos show a Mannlicher-Carcano carbine or a short rifle?

First you have to show they are authentic before you can use them to show anything in regards to LHO.  Can you do this?

There you go again proving me right. The ONLY way you could weasel out of the question was to claim that they are fake, as you just did.
And YES the HSCA provided that the backyard photos are genuine. So now what do you do, kook?


You are a horrible  Tony as stating you need to show they are authentic is not the same thing as saying they are fake!

This is very dishonest behavior on your part.


2. Does the shipping list order in  Waldman exhibit 3 show a Mannlicher-Carcano with the serial number C2766?

Since it was shown years ago there were numerous rifles with this stamp, so what?


Staying true to your kook roots you refuse to answer the question and weasel out of it by claiming the evidence is fake.
No one proved that there are several Mannlicher-Carcano rifles with the serial number C2766. And how many had exactly the same pattern of wear marks?


Just because you don't keep up on the research it is not my job to educate you! Tony sure loves the "kook" word, so did "Ben Holmes"! We learned today that Tony posts as "Walt Cakebread" on ACJ so I wonder if he is "Ben" too?

3. Is the serial number of the rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD and introduced into evidence by the WC C2766?

I have posted research on this before Tony and it is clear to me the stamps on the two rifles (the one found at the TSBD and the one in the National Archives) have different etchings!  The "C" looks more like a "G" to me and everyone else who has ever viewed it.  The sling mounts are different on the rifle in the BY photos too from the one allegedly found in the TSBD.


More kook research. Anything to weasel out of admitting simple facts.

LOL! So if you don't agree with Tony's take you are a kook and wrong?  YOU are a joke to the research community!


I don't have to claim things are fake as they do a miserable job of supporting the claim so I am happy to acknowledge them as evidence!

That is why it is impossible to debate with kooks like you. When confronted with any simple fact all you have to do is claim that all the evidence is fake.

LOL! I just said I didn't say it is fake and he still claims I did and calls me a kook!  How can you get anywhere with a "kook" like this?  YOU can't.

Get one thing straight in your head, clown.

Get one straight major domo dunce -- get GERITOL!  And get it soon!

You are nobody.

Yeah, like the Tony Marsh name is such a household name!   rofl  "Marsh" is a good name for you because you mind is stuck in a marsh!

You  contribute absolutely nothing to research.

What you contribute was contributed in 1964 by the WC!

I don't care what you think and no one else does either.

I don't expect a  like you to care, but don't speak for everyone else.

I have no interest in convincing you of anything, even of the fact that gravity exists.

"Ben" likes the discussion of gravity too!  All I know is gravity has been rough on your head as your brain is like a marsh! By the way Tony Marsh is nine letters!  LOL!

I have a theory about the 9 letter bandits!

Ben Holmes -- 9 letters
Tony Marsh -- 9 letters
Bill Brown -- 9 letters
Dave Healy -- 9 letters

To name some.

You refuse to accept any facts.

Maybe IF you presented some I would, but you don't so how do you know?

You can weasel your way out of anything.
The ONLY reason I waste any time on a piece of crap like you is to show everyone WHY you are wrong so they don't make the same mistakes.


Too bad you flunk this mission so badly, huh?  The only one that is shown to be a fool and a  is you!

Carry on Major domo dunce!




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