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Willis No 5, the best evidence against the SBT?  (Read 1573 times)
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Along with Duncan's excellent video showing Kennedy clearly reacting to a shot just before he goes behind the sign around the 195-207 mark:
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Phil Willis' photo No 5 has to be the best evidence that Kennedy is really hit where the HSCA said he was, around 190.

He testified that to the Warren Commision that he squeezed the button on his camera as a startle reflex to the sound of a gunshot. Here is that photo:


The HSCA decided it was taken at Zapruder frame 202:


This in itself blows the SBT out of the water, making all the silliness about the trajectories irrelevent.


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Quote from: Danny Stracener link=topic=3370.msg63460#msg63460 date=
Wiilis has only one shot of the limo on Elm? That's strange.He has a few of the limo on Houston.In Willis 3,the limo is between County Records and the Cop building. He had to outrun his daughter to be included in the Zaptoon frames.Maybe they used the cars in Willis 3 to come up with Willis 5.

Oh please, are  you claiming zapruder fakery? I can maybe accept some frames were removed, but actual sfx fakery is just insane fantasy.

And one shouldn't accept some frames removed. If frames are simply removed, the limousine would seemed to momentarily double it's speed.

The math just happens to work out in the Zapruder film that a movement of "x" inches of an object, corresponds to a speed of "x" miles per hour. So, after emerging from behind the sign in z222, for instance, the limousine is moving about 12 MPH. With each frame, the limousine moves 12 inches further down the road. If a frame was removed, the distance the limousine would move between each frame interval would be: 12", 12", 24", 12", 12", etc.

Removing a frame from the Zapruder film would not work, unless every other frame was removed through the entire film. Except Mr. Zapruder would not have had enough film to film the entire sequence. He had enough film to make about 500 frames, not 1,000 frames. So essentially, removing a single frame would not work.


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> Mark:
> The pictures tell the story not the picture takers.

> Ross
> So right, so sensible.
> The witnesses were not using stopwatches.
> Why do people place so much emphasis on
> eye-witness (and ear-witness) testimony?

The best evidence is the physical evidence, like the photographs and film. The worst evidence is the eyewitnesses. This is generally true in all cases.

If one choose the overall theory that is wrong, I think it's natural to come to believe that the best evidence is the worst evidence and the worst evidence is the best evidence. Hence, the title of this post "Willis No 5, the best evidence against the SBT?" by which the original poster did not mean the picture by itself was the best evidence but Mr. Willis's memory, his account, was the best evidence.

In general, most CTers come to see eyewitness testimony as the best evidence, because eyewitness testimony is actually the most unreliable evidence and so it tends to support the CT side the most often.


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