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Where did Oswald go after leaving the TSBD soon after 12.30 pm on 22 November 1963? How did he travel?
The Warren Commission said ---

Leaves TSBD:
Walk > Bus > Walk > Taxi > Walk - reaches 1026 North Beckley (boarding house where he lived).

Leaves boarding house:
Walk > - Tippitt encounter (murders police officer)
Run > Walk - enters Texas Theater.

Arrested and taken by squad car to Dallas Police Headquarters.

Seems straightforward. I'd be keen to hear of any alternate "diversions" from the known "paths".
Alternate modes of transport too.

Questions:

(1.) Where was Oswald intending to "travel" when he was stopped by Officer Tippit?

(2.) Where was Oswald intending to "travel" after the Texas Theater - had he not been arrested?

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Others say he left later,Wesley Frazier(paragon of truth ) recently said Oswald left by the rear entrance.Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.
What does Fritz say ?.


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Others say he left later,Wesley Frazier(paragon of truth ) recently said Oswald left by the rear entrance.Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.
What does Fritz say ?.

Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.

But Ian, Oswald getting into a car after leaving the TSBD would indicate some prearranged "getaway" plan.
It then looks very much like Lee is part of the assassination to some degree. Shooter or otherwise, he is implicated in the crime.
I know you are only "speculating", Ian. That's OK by me.
No doubt Hinrichs will criticize you for that sin.


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Others say he left later,Wesley Frazier(paragon of truth ) recently said Oswald left by the rear entrance.Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.
What does Fritz say ?.

Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.

But Ian, Oswald getting into a car after leaving the TSBD would indicate some prearranged "getaway" plan.
It then looks very much like Lee is part of the assassination to some degree. Shooter or otherwise, he is implicated in the crime.
I know you are only "speculating", Ian. That's OK by me.
No doubt Hinrichs will criticize you for that sin.

Ross

I believe very little that is in the W.C. and even less in the DPD .So when somebody tells me it happened according to the "evidence" in the W.C. I think that they might as well be speculating. Why would Martin Criticize me?. I have always found him to be polite ,Intelligent and extremely helpful
You should try and converse with him in German his native tongue and see what degree of understanding you have.

Ian


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Others say he left later,Wesley Frazier(paragon of truth ) recently said Oswald left by the rear entrance.Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.
What does Fritz say ?.

Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.

But Ian, Oswald getting into a car after leaving the TSBD would indicate some prearranged "getaway" plan.
It then looks very much like Lee is part of the assassination to some degree. Shooter or otherwise, he is implicated in the crime.
I know you are only "speculating", Ian. That's OK by me.
No doubt Hinrichs will criticize you for that sin.

Ross

I believe very little that is in the W.C. and even less in the DPD .So when somebody tells me it happened according to the "evidence" in the W.C. I think that they might as well be speculating. Why would Martin Criticize me?. I have always found him to be polite ,Intelligent and extremely helpful
You should try and converse with him in German his native tongue and see what degree of understanding you have.

Ian

Why would Martin criticize you (regarding speculating), Ian? To be consistent!


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Others say he left later,Wesley Frazier(paragon of truth ) recently said Oswald left by the rear entrance.Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.
What does Fritz say ?.

Maybe he did get into the Rambler?.

But Ian, Oswald getting into a car after leaving the TSBD would indicate some prearranged "getaway" plan.
It then looks very much like Lee is part of the assassination to some degree. Shooter or otherwise, he is implicated in the crime.
I know you are only "speculating", Ian. That's OK by me.
No doubt Hinrichs will criticize you for that sin.

Ross

I believe very little that is in the W.C. and even less in the DPD .So when somebody tells me it happened according to the "evidence" in the W.C. I think that they might as well be speculating. Why would Martin Criticize me?. I have always found him to be polite ,Intelligent and extremely helpful
You should try and converse with him in German his native tongue and see what degree of understanding you have.

Ian

Why would Martin criticize you (regarding speculating), Ian? To be consistent!

Ross

If you and Martin Got off on the wrong foot that is a shame . I rarely disagree with anyone we are all entitled to our opinion. We all speculate the reason for this is sloppy work 47 years ago and not being able to rely on the official version for anything other than reference.Why do you think this particular case draws so much attention .76% of the population disagree with the government and the government "Don't play that  cop".
So the government has to maintain an even keel and stay in power first we had the HSCA Then the AARB little by little another truth emerges .With the amount of FOIA cases abound in the courts we can assume there is a lot more to be revealed.
In the 60's We could not handle the truth .Now we can.

Ian

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I think the evidence he was:
 
a) on the same bus as Markham
b) ever in Whaley's cab

is pretty thin to say the least.


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I think the evidence he was:
 
a) on the same bus as Markham
b) ever in Whaley's cab

is pretty thin to say the least.

Who said that Oswald was on the same bus as Markham?  Did Markham even get on a bus that day?  Did I miss something (again)?


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Quote from: Bill Brown link=topic=3362.msg63089#msg63089 date=
Quote from: Barry Howarth link=topic=3362.msg63025#msg63025 date=
I think the evidence he was:
 
a) on the same bus as Markham
b) ever in Whaley's cab

is pretty thin to say the least.

Who said that Oswald was on the same bus as Markham?  Did Markham even get on a bus that day?  Did I miss something (again)?

Sorry, meant Bledsoe. Easy to confuse one mad old woman with another.


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I think the evidence he was:
 
a) on the same bus as Markham
b) ever in Whaley's cab

is pretty thin to say the least.

Barry,

Thanks for stepping up to the plate.
A smart guy like you knew this was coming.
What is the "thin" evidence for (a.) and (b.)?

Ross


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I think the evidence he was:
 
a) on the same bus as Markham
b) ever in Whaley's cab

is pretty thin to say the least.

Barry,

Thanks for stepping up to the plate.
A smart guy like you knew this was coming.
What is the "thin" evidence for (a.) and (b.)?

Ross

Let's change the question, Ross.  What evidence do you have that he was on the bus?  Lay it all out for us.  That's much easier to start with that outlining why the evidence is "thin."  Let's hear it from you?  What you got?


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The only real evidence he was ever on that particular bus is Bledsoe, but even Bugliosi dismisses her as a petty, vindictive old woman who was observing things nobody else did. It's quite clear from her confused testimony she's describing Oswald's disheveled appearance from after he was arrested and was probably never on the same bus as him at all. The other 2 witnesses couldn't identity 'Oswald' and make no mention of Bledsoe been there at all.

As for Whaley, again, he describes someone who doesn't seem to be Oswald at all, so what evidence is there it was ever really him?


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