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The next CT to turn into an LN  (Read 2784 times)

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Well, somebody did it.


Who's next ? Post who you think will be the next CT here to turn into an LN , I think at some point we have all been or leaned toward CT and after some studying came to the conclusion that the LN is correct in this thing so who's next to flip ?

I think Herb Blenner is going to flip pretty soon, he's a really sharp guy and I believe he will eventually realize where he should be on this thing.

CT's should post how close they are and what it would take for them to flip .


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LN; So how did it happen then ?

CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.

LN;  We should not use evidence in this case ?

CT; Correct.

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I'm betting on Al Bundy....and that Simpson guy won't be far behind.


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I'm betting on Al Bundy....and that Simpson guy won't be far behind.
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Who's next ? Post who you think will be the next CT here to turn into an LN , I think at some point we have all been or leaned toward CT and after some studying came to the conclusion that the LN is correct in this thing so who's next to flip ?

I think Herb Blenner is going to flip pretty soon, he's a really sharp guy and I believe he will eventually realize where he should be on this thing.

CT's should post how close they are and what it would take for them to flip .

Is this your way of saying there is a hiring campaign going on?  How much does a LNer make a year these days?


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Who's next ? Post who you think will be the next CT here to turn into an LN , I think at some point we have all been or leaned toward CT and after some studying came to the conclusion that the LN is correct in this thing so who's next to flip ?

I think Herb Blenner is going to flip pretty soon, he's a really sharp guy and I believe he will eventually realize where he should be on this thing.

CT's should post how close they are and what it would take for them to flip .

Would be interesting to know what Herbert has to say about it and what makes you to believe that Herbert Blenner
will ....let me use your words "flip" into a LN'er? Care to answer?

Let's look at the Poll i once started:

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Well, some 50 years ago and just 15% believes that there was no conspiracy. brolley1

How many believe that the moonlanding was a fake?  15%?

Mhh, i think a little bit lesser.


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Well, somebody did it.


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Who's next ? Post who you think will be the next CT here to turn into an LN , I think at some point we have all been or leaned toward CT and after some studying came to the conclusion that the LN is correct in this thing so who's next to flip ?

I think Herb Blenner is going to flip pretty soon, he's a really sharp guy and I believe he will eventually realize where he should be on this thing.

CT's should post how close they are and what it would take for them to flip .

Would be interesting to know what Herbert has to say about it and what makes you to believe that Herbert Blenner
will ....let me use your words "flip" into a LN'er? Care to answer?

Let's look at the Poll i once started:

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Well, some 50 years ago and just 15% believes that there was no conspiracy. brolley1

How many believe that the moonlanding was a fake?  15%?

Mhh, i think a little bit lesser.


Whether or not there was a conspiracy has no relationship to the amount of people that believe it, there was none so 85% of the people were wrong, and 95 percent of that 85 percent don't even care.


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Who's next ? Post who you think will be the next CT here to turn into an LN , I think at some point we have all been or leaned toward CT and after some studying came to the conclusion that the LN is correct in this thing so who's next to flip ?

I think Herb Blenner is going to flip pretty soon, he's a really sharp guy and I believe he will eventually realize where he should be on this thing.

CT's should post how close they are and what it would take for them to flip .

Would be interesting to know what Herbert has to say about it and what makes you to believe that Herbert Blenner
will ....let me use your words "flip" into a LN'er? Care to answer?

Let's look at the Poll i once started:

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Well, some 50 years ago and just 15% believes that there was no conspiracy. brolley1

How many believe that the moonlanding was a fake?  15%?

Mhh, i think a little bit lesser.


Whether or not there was a conspiracy has no relationship to the amount of people that believe it, there was none so 85% of the people were wrong, and 95 percent of that 85 percent don't even care.

 dman2 rofl3

Ok, but whats with Herbert?

I ask because it's one your of newest theories. What is when Herbert is not going to flip into
a LN'er as you predicted? What is when you are wrong?


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Certainly CTers do sometimes become LNers. The opposite, LNers who become CTers is very rare. I don't know if a real serious LNer, one who believed and argued for the LN position for over a year, has ever become a CTer.

But I don't think any CTer here will become a LNer. Not one who makes many posts, in any case. People don't change their minds while debating with others. Changing their minds is too easily confused with "Losing the Debate."

In the one detailed account I know of where a CTer becomes a LNer:

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Michael Beck does not chance his mind while debating others. He chances his mind by doing his own research and coming up with his own ideas. Notably, he was much impressed by the group of Texas housewives who got Oswald his job. Reasonably, that didn't sound like the results of a conspiracy to him. By coming up with his own discoveries, his own arguments, he was able to change his mind.

Dale Myers changes his mind from his own research on the Tippit's murder. His research convinced him that Oswald must have murdered Officer Tippit, therefore Oswald most likely did kill JFK. A reasonable deduction. But Myers must have heard other excellent reasons for Oswald's guilt. In particular, he must have heard that Oswald tried to kill Officer McDonald. Surely, Oswald trying to kill Officer McDonald is as sure a sign that Oswald was guilty of JFK's murder as Oswald's murder of Officer Tippit. Indeed, as good as the case is against Oswald in the Officer Tippit murder, the case against Oswald in the attempt of murder against Officer McDonald was even stronger, after all, Oswald was captured literally while trying to kill Officer McDonald.

Why didn't Myers's knowledge of the McDonald attempted murder persuade Myers but the murder of Tippit did? Because the Tippit murder was something that Myers discovered for himself. It's much easier to accept the truth if one discovers it through one's effort than if it is just told to them.

So no, I don't think Herbert will be joining our ranks.


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Certainly CTers do sometimes become LNers. The opposite, LNers who become CTers is very rare. I don't know if a real serious LNer, one who believed and argued for the LN position for over a year, has ever become a CTer.

But I don't think any CTer here will become a LNer. Not one who makes many posts, in any case. People don't change their minds while debating with others. Changing their minds is too easily confused with "Losing the Debate."

In the one detailed account I know of where a CTer becomes a LNer:

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Michael Beck does not chance his mind while debating others. He chances his mind by doing his own research and coming up with his own ideas. Notably, he was much impressed by the group of Texas housewives who got Oswald his job. Reasonably, that didn't sound like the results of a conspiracy to him. By coming up with his own discoveries, his own arguments, he was able to change his mind.

Dale Myers changes his mind from his own research on the Tippit's murder. His research convinced him that Oswald must have murdered Officer Tippit, therefore Oswald most likely did kill JFK. A reasonable deduction. But Myers must have heard other excellent reasons for Oswald's guilt. In particular, he must have heard that Oswald tried to kill Officer McDonald. Surely, Oswald trying to kill Officer McDonald is as sure a sign that Oswald was guilty of JFK's murder as Oswald's murder of Officer Tippit. Indeed, as good as the case is against Oswald in the Officer Tippit murder, the case against Oswald in the attempt of murder against Officer McDonald was even stronger, after all, Oswald was captured literally while trying to kill Officer McDonald.

Why didn't Myers's knowledge of the McDonald attempted murder persuade Myers but the murder of Tippit did? Because the Tippit murder was something that Myers discovered for himself. It's much easier to accept the truth if one discovers it through one's effort than if it is just told to them.

So no, I don't think Herbert will be joining our ranks.


But I don't think any CTer here will become a LNer. Not one who makes many posts, in any case. People don't change their minds while debating with others. Changing their minds is too easily confused with "Losing the Debate."

This type of comment is made to HIDE THE FACT that there isn't any evidence to show LHO was the shooter! So the WC supporters act like they give you good, solid, irrefutable evidence and you just simply refuse to accept it because you don't want to "appear to lose a debate!" 

Nothing can be further from the truth!  In fact, getting a WC supporter to even CITE THE EVIDENCE is akin to pulling a tooth!  They know the evidence in the 26 volumes (and the countless pieces found and added by independent researchers) does NOT support the theory the WC gave us so they SIMPLY AVOID citing anything.  They instead use opinion, speculation, unsupported assertions, suppositions and sometimes slander and fibs to hide this fact. 

This is why no one will change their mind on here!  Speaking for myself, if evidence was presented that showed my thinking was wrong I would acknowledge it and make the change, but this will never happen because the WC gave us evidence that supports a conspiracy!


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Speaking for myself, if evidence was presented that showed my thinking was wrong I would acknowledge it and make the change, but this will never happen


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> This is why no one will change their mind on here!

No, those are not the reasons why. It's because no one changes their minds when in the midst of a debate with others.

Just as no one could tell Dorothy how to get home to Kansas, she had to figure it out for herself, one can only find the truth of the JFK assassination by thinking on one's own.

How else to explain how Michael Beck and Dale Myers changed from being CTers to LNers?

Question for former CTers here:

Did you change your mind in the midst of a debate with LNers? Or did you change your mind by doing your own research and thinking?


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I surrendered many of my earliest hunches/beliefs because they did not hold up to scrutiny over the years -- although they did make for some damn fine reading.

However, I still subscribe to the conspiracy line of thinking because there are elements that simply can't be explained away, or at least not to my satisfaction.

Mark


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