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Altgens is almost in the street, here (see below), I've draw lines to him being on (by) the curb. Z's axis is as far, as I can draw (here), towards the left-of-centre of the freeway sign, towards the tower's north-west corner. I'm being as extreme, within parameters of logical reason; to try to address the problem. And in doing so, I still have a massive problem; why have 45 frames separated what is obvious, HERE, from what is SEEN in the Z-frames'? The Z-frames have been seriously altered, FROM THE FREEWAY SIGN ONWARDS, from what I'm demonstrating HERE. Altgens-6 was wired across the world within a few hours, and then mass published. And so, is very unlikely, to have been doctored. You should all be able to determine, from my drawing, that the limo (including configured contents) isn't where it should be according to the Z-frames. Or, that Clapping-man isn't where he should be. Apron-man and Clapping-man, are shown by the Z-frames, to be approximately where the tips of the two blue lines in my drawing from Z end, that is, intersecting within the curb area, to Altgens-6's far right of frame. I'VE USED THE LANE LINE AS REFERENCE POINTS. What's truly remarkable about Altgens-6, is the fact, that one of the World's best combat-photographers, was where he was, at that time, and had his axis, focus, aperture, exposure, and camera, lens, and film selection the way he did, and then squeezed his SLR's shutter release when he did. QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PHOTOGRAPH EVER TAKEN ON THIS PLANET. 
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September 01, 2010, 03:40:58 AM
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What picture?
There are 3 photos in the above composite.
If you mean Altgens-6 was taken a about Z-254, then you haven't read my post, or digested what I'm saying.
Altgens-6 matches the position of the limo at Z-209, or there abouts.
That's what I'm saying ... read the title of my thread, that might help you.
In the Altgens photo you can see JFK's hands up in front of his throat. You don't see that same position in Z-209 or any photos just after. He's saying that the film was altered because the positions of the guys clapping don't match up with the film but they match up perfectly, he's just not counting correctly. He's also trying to draw straight lines across a photo that was shot an angle, you can't really do that but you can count the lane markers and they also match up, so not much to see here.
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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September 01, 2010, 03:42:06 AM
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Mark,
5 in your thing isn't in frame. It's out of frame, look at the Dal-Tex corner. It's, the line your pointing to (not a line), is outside of Altgen's field of view.
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September 01, 2010, 03:48:07 AM
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Mark,
5 in your thing isn't in frame. It's out of frame, look at the Dal-Tex corner. It's, the line your pointing to (not a line), is outside of Altgen's field of view.
You can see it better here, there are five, they do not put lane markers in crosswalks. It's a lane marker , its the first one you see in your overhead shot. As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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September 01, 2010, 03:55:06 AM
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Mark,
Look at my black line going to the Dal-Tex.
It's below where altegens can photograph it.
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September 01, 2010, 04:13:09 AM
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Mark,
It might be better if you draw on my thing where you put Altgens's position and field of view.
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September 01, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
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Mark,
It might be better if you draw on my thing where you put Altgens's position and field of view.
Pretty close to where you have him, we have about the same line of sight for him, he can see all five sets of markers ( obviously, as he photographed them ) . I'm not understanding what you are trying to say. That last car is pretty much between the first and second set of markers. Next car is between second and third, next car is on the fourth set, the limo is on the fifth set, I'm not understanding where the mystery is.
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September 01, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
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Mark,
I've got Altgens where he is, because that's the only place he can be.
If the limo is where you are saying, then it wouldn't be in frame.
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September 01, 2010, 05:56:29 AM
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Mark,
I've got Altgens where he is, because that's the only place he can be.
If the limo is where you are saying, then it wouldn't be in frame.
Your arguments don't match each other, the fifth set of markers are in the photo and so the limo can also be there. If your placement of Altgens doesn't allow this then you have to move him to where he was which is further down the street, you're making this harder than it needs to be. Look at the first drawing I posted, that is where Altgens is positioned he is about Z350. You can't make it fit Dave , there is nothing wrong with this photo or film, they macth-up perfectly.
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