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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.

Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.

Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.

Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.

And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.


This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.

And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.

I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.


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What is silly is thinking that two turns that reduced the speed of the car to 8-11 m.p.h. is no big deal when motorcades are suppose to keep a 44 m.p.h. speed..R Caprio


LHO had poor hand-eye coordination and proof of this is seen in the fact he couldn't drive an automobile--  R Caprio

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JFK had been debated by idiots like you for 47 years. Doesn't change the fact that Oswald did it alone.  People debate alot of stupid things. Oswald did it alone, and there has never been one fact to change that.
                                                                         OR PROVE IT................ ROBOT.

The second point about Oswald shooting at Walker proves it you do not have a clue.Read what WALKER said himself.you are a complete waste of processor time .You are ignorant(ask a grown up to get the big book of the shelf for you)of the facts surrounding the Walker incident.

This must be an act you really cannot be this clueless can you?.Unless ........you are AGENDAMAN. During the day your are meek, mild Brian Walker but as soon as night falls you reach for your KEYBOARD of truth to rid the world of free thinking individuals.        AGENDAMAN your Motto would be

                                                           I DID'NT KNOW THAT SO IT CANNOT BE TRUE !!!   (1.explanation of the word ignorant)

I suggest you return to your Fortress of Decrepitude  and read up a bit.


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JFK had been debated by idiots like you for 47 years. Doesn't change the fact that Oswald did it alone.  People debate alot of stupid things. Oswald did it alone, and there has never been one fact to change that.
                                                                         OR PROVE IT................ ROBOT.

The second point about Oswald shooting at Walker proves it you do not have a clue.Read what WALKER said himself.you are a complete waste of processor time .You are ignorant(ask a grown up to get the big book of the shelf for you)of the facts surrounding the Walker incident.

This must be an act you really cannot be this clueless can you?.Unless ........you are AGENDAMAN. During the day your are meek, mild Brian Walker but as soon as night falls you reach for your KEYBOARD of truth to rid the world of free thinking individuals.        AGENDAMAN your Motto would be

                                                           I DID'NT KNOW THAT SO IT CANNOT BE TRUE !!!   (1.explanation of the word ignorant)

I suggest you return to your Fortress of Decrepitude  and read up a bit.

let me guess. you don't believe Oswald shot at Walker. Good one..Funny stuff.

What did Walker himself say. This should be good.


And one again the point of the whole topic was that the great majority of people who have tried to kill a President were lone nuts. Whats the count. Something like 15 out of 17. Admit I don't know the exact count and not going to bother looking it up. We get the point. So to say there is no way you can belioeve that any lone nut would kill a President is an  cop statement that you don't redeem yourself from. Its exactly what people say about nuts. They just can't grasp that one man could do something this big..

And i don't claim this is proof that Oswald did it alone. I know the other clown was trying to hint that was what I was claiming. I was hoping it would sink in to him what point i was making.


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What I very clearly have said, however, is that the white decorative pergola (and maybe the area behind the stockade fence) is what was behind Zapruder.  Also, the area behind the stockade fence is not the "grassy knoll"....unless you can show me grass (or even a knoll of some sort) in that parking lot.

You are 100% correct, Bill.
What was behind Zapruder's back, actually changed as he filmed the motorcade.
Looking at these photographs shows how his back position changed as he was panning.

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I do not wish to get into a personal argument with Bill and Rob But was Zapruder filming from the Knoll?. I believed the word Knoll meant Hill If I am mistaken I am sure somebody will point it out .Zapruder stood  on a concrete abutment. In front of him was a piece of grass on an incline where the Newmans were . this incline ran up to and beyond the railway bridge and levelled out at the Stemmons freeway intersection. So am I now to assume that the Grassy Knoll does not include the incline upto and including the stockade fence and concrete wall.IOW the steps leading down to Elm is the border between The Knoll and what ?.I could think of a name for it but I would rather it came from somebody who had actually been there and knows.

Ian

Bill and Lee have both been there.

Being there is not the answer I was looking for!  Let's say theoretically they are correct, at this stage of the case (nearly 47 years out) the terminology is what wins out!  IOW, if the local natives don't consider this part to be the GK, but the researchers, the WC and every one else does, we have to go with that as that is what everyone is referring to! 

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder!  Bill believes LHO acted alone (at least that is my impression of what he thinks based on all of his posts) and there is ONLY one location for that belief and that was NEVER BEHIND Zapruder.  That was my point.

Bill, like many others who share his beliefs never address the POINT, but instead play games making other things the focal point!

To sum up:

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER!

The rest is just semantics to distract.


There is no evidence that shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP.
There is witness testimony, but no actual evidence.

There is more witnsses testimony that the shots didn't come from there.
More witnsses said the shots came from the TSDB. There were eye wtinsses to a shooter on the 6th floor. There were 3 guys on the 5th floor who heard the shots right above them. And over 90% of witnsses said there were only 3 shots.

So obviously some of the witnsses have to be wrong. And obviously the ones that thought they heard shots from the GK are wrong. There is no proof of it at all.

This is wrong Duncan.  Of the 95 folks they asked in regards to the origin of the shots nearly two-thirds of them said the GK area!  This caused them to stop asking.  Well over a hundred witnesses were never asked this simple question!

I'm not disputing what is right or what is wrong, Rob.
All I am saying is that there is no evidence, physical or photographic, for a shot from the knoll.

Photographic evidence is the lowest type of evidence you can have in court!  Without a witness to introduce it you can't enter it into evidence!  This is why all the official theory defenders mock all the witnesses!

The body is the key thing and those that saw it said the damage they saw does NOT correspond to the scenario the WC gave us.  Some witnesses did see smoke and activity in the knoll area too!

IF you want a photo, use Atgens and explain to us how JFK could be hit so early when a TREE WAS OBSTRUCTING THE VIEW FROM THE SE 6TH FLOOR WINDOW!


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When Z started filming the Grassy knoll was behind his head  as he rotates the pergola is behind his head .

I disagree.  I believe that when Zapruder began filming, the area behind the stockade fence was behind him, not Rob Caprio's "grassy knoll area".

Bill has NO understanding of what the "Grassy Knoll" was!  The GK was large and the stockade fence area was PART OF IT!  This sums things up for me as it shows he has NO understanding of what he is discussing, but instead of saying I made a mistake he calls me a liar! 

Typical I guess.  I was hoping for more from Bill, but hey, there is always tomorrow.

A knoll is a type of hill. The grassy knoll was the area up to the fence and the fence was on top of the grassy knoll. The parking lot is not part of the grassy knoll.


Thanks for the summary Tony, now show me where I ever said the parking lot was part of the knoll!  Bill said that to distract from the fact he believed shots came from the TSBD ONLY and that building was NEVER behind Zapruder.


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“Well Rob, you're the only one that seems to think that the parking lot behind the stockade fence was part of the grassy knoll.   rofl

Why are YOU rolling on the floor with laughter when you are the one lying?  YOU can’t quote me ever saying the parking lot was part of the Grassy Knoll!  YOU are making up another lie to cover the fact the TSBD was NEVER behind Zapruder!

“To everyone else not named Rob Caprio (because he can't seem to grasp the very simple concept):

Zapruder said "behind me" when he was asked where he believed the shots came from.  Behind Zapruder was the white decorative pergola (and maybe even the parking lot behind the stockade fence).  I believe that Oswald acted alone in assassinating Kennedy.  But this does not mean that I believe that Zapruder even remotely hinted that the shots came from the TSBD.  Rob doesn't understand this, despite me explaining it to him seemingly a dozen times now.  He just wants to keep accusing me of lying.  About what, I'm not sure.”

ALL you have to do Bill is SHOW US WHEN THE TSBD WAS EVER BEHIND HIM! 

See, if it wasn’t then he had to HEAR SHOTS THAT CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE!  YOU are the dense won that won’t accept this!

“So I will try one last time for the  cop that is Rob Caprio:”

This guy believes the shots came from the TSBD as the WC said and yet he can’t show us this was EVER BEHIND Zapruder and I’m the ‘ cop’.

Go figure!

“I am a lone nutter.  I believe Oswald acted alone.  I believe that the only shots fired (3) came from the SE corner of the 6th floor of the TSBD building.  Despite believing all of these things, I also believe that Zapruder said "behind me" when asked where he felt the shots came from.  I believe Zapruder was mistaken.”

NOW we come to the essence of it.  YOU can’t just say someone is mistaken in their testimony and statements in a murder case without showing us HOW THEY WERE MISTAKEN!  Can you offer anything to show this BEYOND YOUR OPINION?

“I also believe, for example, that Bill Newman believed some of the shots (if not all of them) came from the "mall or garden area".  I believe Newman was also mistaken.”

Ditto!  NO one cares about your biased opinion Bill.

“You see, Rob, if you slow down and pay attention to what you are reading, you will see that even a LNer understands what Zapruder and Newman said, in relation to where the shots came from.  One can be a LNer and still believe that Zapruder said "behind me" when asked where he felt the shots came from.”

LOL!! This guy is priceless and he reminds me of others I have discussed this matter with over the years as they play games instead of deal with evidence!  He is acting like I said he can’t read and could not comprehend the words “behind me” instead of DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF SHOWING US WHEN THE TSBD WAS EVER BEHIND Zapruder! 

See the subtle game now?  Then we get to the root of it – he claims Zapruder who was there is mistaken when he was NOT there and can’t offer up anything to show us he was mistaken!

CTers can’t get away with this!  It took years of research to show the reasons why Brennan, Markham, Bledsoe, Marina, etc…where “mistaken” in their statements! 
“The difference is, pay special attention here Rob, that a LNer believes that Zapruder was mistaken.”

Who cares what YOUR biased belief is?  I only care about evidence!  Can you show us evidence that illustrates he was mistaken?

I doubt it, but let’s see!

“Now Rob, you have accused me time and again of lying.”

LOL! I believe this was YOU Bill who started this as you even categorize my supposed lies by CE numbers! LOL!

“I'm really not even sure what you believe that I'm even lying about.”

YOU are clueless then Bill because I have made it abundantly clear!  YOU can’t show us the TSBD was ever BEHIND Zapruder!

YOU can’t show us evidence that supports your belief that he was mistaken either in his thoughts of where the shots were fired from.

THE REAL BOTTOM LINE IS THIS BILL – IF THE SHOTS CAME ONLY FROM THE TSBD AS THE WC SAID ZAPRUDER WOULD HAVE EITHER HEARD NO SHOTS COMING FROM BEHIND HIM OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EASILY DISMISSED HOAXER LIKE BRENNAN! 

Neither is the case though, is it Bill?

“You have also accused me of implying that the TSBD building was behind Zapruder.”

NO Bill, that was YOUR made up game, NOT mine!  I simply said since you believe the shots came from there and ONLY there, how could Zapruder hear shots from behind him?  I am even open-minded IF you can show us the TSBD was ever behind him, but you have RUN from discussing this!

“I have never even slightly hinted at such a silly statement.  So Rob, I ask you, one last time, show me where I have lied.”

Just did!  YOU can’t show us the TSBD was ever behind him and since you claim the shots ONLY came from there you have to be lying based on Zapruder’s testimony and statements!

Of course you then play the ALL PURPOSE LNer card by claiming everyone who claimed shots came from the vicinity of the Knoll is “mistaken” without as usual providing a single piece of evidence to support this conclusion!

I know I am NOT here for Bill Brown’s opinion and belief!

“While you're at it, show me where I have said that I believe that the TSBD was behind Zapruder.”

More distortion to hide behind.  YOU believe the shots ONLY came from there and I have simply asked you to show that building was ever behind Zapruder since he said THE SHOTS CAME FROM BEHIND HIM!

The only other option is Zapruder was wrong, but it will take more than your opinion and belief to show this is correct.

“Go back through my posts.  Read the relevant threads.  I have never said such a silly thing, you  cop.”

Why bother?  YOU lied as you claimed Zapruder was wrong and can’t show it.  The TSBD was NEVER behind Zapruder.

End of story.  We all know who is the  cop Bill, but really you have no help as you have NO evidence supporting your views.



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What I very clearly have said, however, is that the white decorative pergola (and maybe the area behind the stockade fence) is what was behind Zapruder.  Also, the area behind the stockade fence is not the "grassy knoll"....unless you can show me grass (or even a knoll of some sort) in that parking lot.

You are 100% correct, Bill.
What was behind Zapruder's back, actually changed as he filmed the motorcade.
Looking at these photographs shows how his back position changed as he was panning.

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I do not wish to get into a personal argument with Bill and Rob But was Zapruder filming from the Knoll?. I believed the word Knoll meant Hill If I am mistaken I am sure somebody will point it out .Zapruder stood  on a concrete abutment. In front of him was a piece of grass on an incline where the Newmans were . this incline ran up to and beyond the railway bridge and levelled out at the Stemmons freeway intersection. So am I now to assume that the Grassy Knoll does not include the incline upto and including the stockade fence and concrete wall.IOW the steps leading down to Elm is the border between The Knoll and what ?.I could think of a name for it but I would rather it came from somebody who had actually been there and knows.

Ian

Bill and Lee have both been there.

Being there is not the answer I was looking for!  Let's say theoretically they are correct, at this stage of the case (nearly 47 years out) the terminology is what wins out!  IOW, if the local natives don't consider this part to be the GK, but the researchers, the WC and every one else does, we have to go with that as that is what everyone is referring to! 

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder!  Bill believes LHO acted alone (at least that is my impression of what he thinks based on all of his posts) and there is ONLY one location for that belief and that was NEVER BEHIND Zapruder.  That was my point.

Bill, like many others who share his beliefs never address the POINT, but instead play games making other things the focal point!

To sum up:

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER!

The rest is just semantics to distract.

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP - Rob Caprio

Really?   rofl    Care to show this "evidence"?


The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder! - Rob Caprio

Good.  At least you finally acknowledge that the grassy knoll was not behind Zapruder, as you falsely claimed earlier.  Caprio Error #14 or CE14, as I like to call it:  "(Zapruder) was left with the impression the shots came from BEHIND him which would have meant the Grassy Knoll area"


THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER! - Rob Caprio

I agree.  In fact, I have never disagreed with this statement.

The evidence is in the statements (withheld of course for many years) of almost everyone who worked on him and did an autopsy on him!

His RIGHT-REAR PORTION OF HIS HEAD WAS BLOWN OUT!  He had an entry wound in the throat and right temple! 

He had NO wound at the base of the neck! 

What evidence do YOU have to show he was shot in the back of the head and base of the neck?

I asked Robbie yesterday to name the Doctors who said there was an eentry wound in the right temple. So far nothing.. Just Robbie making stuff up again.



So Malcolm Kilduff, White House Assistant Press Secretary, JUST MADE IT UP?  Too bad he was filmed pointing to the right temple, HUH?  I mean you folks have tried to say this never happened!  Simple denial is your best tactic most of the time!


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What I very clearly have said, however, is that the white decorative pergola (and maybe the area behind the stockade fence) is what was behind Zapruder.  Also, the area behind the stockade fence is not the "grassy knoll"....unless you can show me grass (or even a knoll of some sort) in that parking lot.

You are 100% correct, Bill.
What was behind Zapruder's back, actually changed as he filmed the motorcade.
Looking at these photographs shows how his back position changed as he was panning.

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I do not wish to get into a personal argument with Bill and Rob But was Zapruder filming from the Knoll?. I believed the word Knoll meant Hill If I am mistaken I am sure somebody will point it out .Zapruder stood  on a concrete abutment. In front of him was a piece of grass on an incline where the Newmans were . this incline ran up to and beyond the railway bridge and levelled out at the Stemmons freeway intersection. So am I now to assume that the Grassy Knoll does not include the incline upto and including the stockade fence and concrete wall.IOW the steps leading down to Elm is the border between The Knoll and what ?.I could think of a name for it but I would rather it came from somebody who had actually been there and knows.

Ian

Bill and Lee have both been there.

Being there is not the answer I was looking for!  Let's say theoretically they are correct, at this stage of the case (nearly 47 years out) the terminology is what wins out!  IOW, if the local natives don't consider this part to be the GK, but the researchers, the WC and every one else does, we have to go with that as that is what everyone is referring to! 

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder!  Bill believes LHO acted alone (at least that is my impression of what he thinks based on all of his posts) and there is ONLY one location for that belief and that was NEVER BEHIND Zapruder.  That was my point.

Bill, like many others who share his beliefs never address the POINT, but instead play games making other things the focal point!

To sum up:

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER!

The rest is just semantics to distract.


There is no evidence that shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP.
There is witness testimony, but no actual evidence.

There is more witnsses testimony that the shots didn't come from there.
More witnsses said the shots came from the TSDB. There were eye wtinsses to a shooter on the 6th floor. There were 3 guys on the 5th floor who heard the shots right above them. And over 90% of witnsses said there were only 3 shots.

So obviously some of the witnsses have to be wrong. And obviously the ones that thought they heard shots from the GK are wrong. There is no proof of it at all.

This is wrong Duncan.  Of the 95 folks they asked in regards to the origin of the shots nearly two-thirds of them said the GK area!  This caused them to stop asking.  Well over a hundred witnesses were never asked this simple question!

Simple Robbie,

Most witnsses said the shots came from the TSBD.

Over 90 % said there wee 3 shots or less fired.

There were eye witnsses to someone shooting from the 6th floor.

Taking all this into account  find it amusing when the nuts quote witnsses wh sa what they want to hear.Wen they do this , they ignore the majority who don't agree with them. Its a worn out scam.

Let's make him run!  Cite the relevant part of the WCR or 26 volumes that show the majority of the witnesses said the shots came from the TSBD!  I want full cites with page numbers too!

Which part of the 6th floor?  Most said the WESTERN END!

The folks who ignore the majority of eye/ear witnesses are the supporters of the official theory, they have to otherwise they would have to admit it was all a lie.


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What I very clearly have said, however, is that the white decorative pergola (and maybe the area behind the stockade fence) is what was behind Zapruder.  Also, the area behind the stockade fence is not the "grassy knoll"....unless you can show me grass (or even a knoll of some sort) in that parking lot.

You are 100% correct, Bill.
What was behind Zapruder's back, actually changed as he filmed the motorcade.
Looking at these photographs shows how his back position changed as he was panning.

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I do not wish to get into a personal argument with Bill and Rob But was Zapruder filming from the Knoll?. I believed the word Knoll meant Hill If I am mistaken I am sure somebody will point it out .Zapruder stood  on a concrete abutment. In front of him was a piece of grass on an incline where the Newmans were . this incline ran up to and beyond the railway bridge and levelled out at the Stemmons freeway intersection. So am I now to assume that the Grassy Knoll does not include the incline upto and including the stockade fence and concrete wall.IOW the steps leading down to Elm is the border between The Knoll and what ?.I could think of a name for it but I would rather it came from somebody who had actually been there and knows.

Ian

Bill and Lee have both been there.

Being there is not the answer I was looking for!  Let's say theoretically they are correct, at this stage of the case (nearly 47 years out) the terminology is what wins out!  IOW, if the local natives don't consider this part to be the GK, but the researchers, the WC and every one else does, we have to go with that as that is what everyone is referring to! 

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder!  Bill believes LHO acted alone (at least that is my impression of what he thinks based on all of his posts) and there is ONLY one location for that belief and that was NEVER BEHIND Zapruder.  That was my point.

Bill, like many others who share his beliefs never address the POINT, but instead play games making other things the focal point!

To sum up:

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER!

The rest is just semantics to distract.

The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP - Rob Caprio

Really?   rofl    Care to show this "evidence"?


The point is this, the evidence shows us shots came from the stockade fence/concrete wall section of DP and that is BEHIND Zapruder! - Rob Caprio

Good.  At least you finally acknowledge that the grassy knoll was not behind Zapruder, as you falsely claimed earlier.  Caprio Error #14 or CE14, as I like to call it:  "(Zapruder) was left with the impression the shots came from BEHIND him which would have meant the Grassy Knoll area"


THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE TSBD WAS BEHIND ZAPRUDER! - Rob Caprio

I agree.  In fact, I have never disagreed with this statement.

The evidence is in the statements (withheld of course for many years) of almost everyone who worked on him and did an autopsy on him!

His RIGHT-REAR PORTION OF HIS HEAD WAS BLOWN OUT!  He had an entry wound in the throat and right temple! 

He had NO wound at the base of the neck! 

What evidence do YOU have to show he was shot in the back of the head and base of the neck?

I asked Robbie yesterday to name the Doctors who said there was an eentry wound in the right temple. So far nothing.. Just Robbie making stuff up again.

I have learned that Caprio definitely does "make stuff up".  In fact, he seems to be a pro at it.

Slander and libel will get you NO where Bill, ONLY evidence and cites can help you -- too bad you are so poor at providing either, huh?


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Ian, I don't have a problem letting it go.  Thing is, I let it go and then I sign onto the forum the very next day to see that Caprio has attributed another statement  to me that I have never made.  Anyone can see this and hopefully it has cost him some serious credibility.

 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Folks like Bill lie about what you say, they play games, the NEVER CITE for anything yet they always claim the other person is "losing credibility!"

I guess it is true in a way has you have to HAVE CREDIBILITY TO START WITH TO LOSE ANY LATER ON, RIGHT?

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Only as  cop or a conspiracy nut can know thw facts of the case, and believe in a conspiracy.


Why don't you stop with the blanket label " cop" talk, Brian? 

You yourself have proven, on numerous occasions, that you don't know the facts of the case.

Point out the numerous occasions.

Sorry but anyone who starts out by saying he can't believe that a lone person would decide to shoot a President is a  cop..Period..Considering the great majority of assasins have been lone nuts it points out that he decided it was a conspiracy, now is into the stupid argument phse. Like jus about every conspiracy nut on the internet.

I'll make a deal with you.

I'll point out the numerous times you've demonstrated that you don't know the evidence if you list the "great majority of assassins [who] have been lone nuts."  I assume you're talking about assassinations and attempted assassinations of all heads of state or are you limiting this to the U.S.?

I think that's a fair deal.

here is a list of attempted presidential assasins in America. Like i said only a complete  cop says he can't believe a lone nut would decide to kill a President. The type of statement that a conspiracy nut makes.



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Whatever drugs you are on they are not doing you any favors.

What is your point here?  That some presidents have been killed by lone nuts? 

You do know that Lincoln was killed as a result of a conspiracy don't you?  Or is that a figment of my imagination as well?  You do know that the attempt on Truman was the result of a conspiracy, don't you?  Or have I made that up?

What you are saying is this.  Some presidents have been assassinated by lone-nuts and some presidents have had attempts on their lives by lone nuts.  So therefore, even though some presidents have been killed by a conspiracy, and some have had attempts on their lives as a result of a conspiracy, we would be idiots to think that a president couldn't be killed by a lone nut, so we must therefore believe that JFK was killed by a lone nut.

You are stark raving bonkers. 

You can't figure out what I am saying? Are you kidding. A couple days ago some nut said he can't believe that one guy would decide to kill a President on a whim.
The listIi just posted shows that the great majority of time it is one guy who tries this. So only an  cop like I said would find it hard to believe that a lone nut could decide to kill a President. DUH.

Are you stark raving stupid.

The what you are saying line by you is not what I am saying. Follow along please.

I'm stupid?  You are possibly one of the biggest gonads frequenting this board. 

You expect me to follow your lunacy?  Jesus.  I'd end up in a mental hospital if I followed you. 

Let's see how your gonad logic works eh?

Somebody said on this board that they can't believe that someone alone would decide on a whim to kill a president.  You then say he's an  cop because the "great majority" of assassins  have been lone nuts.

Point 1.  There have been four U.S. presidents assassinted in office.  Two were killed by what you would term "lone nuts."  One was killed by way of quite a large conspiracy.  The other has been debated for nearly 48 years.  On my side of the fence two U.S. presidents have been killed by conspiracy.  Two by lone nuts.  That's 50/50. 

Point 2. What would your answer be if somone said they couldn't believe that someone would take part in a conspiracy to kill the president.  Would your answer be something like this? "Anyone who thinks a president cannot be killed by way of a conspiracy is an  cop as 25% (or 50% depending on your point of view) of assassinated presidents have been killed by a conspiracy."

Oh and BTW.  The assassins of McKinley and Garfield, they both had clearly defined and reported political and personal motives.  Something you and the rest of the LN gang are absent in the case of Lee Harvey Oswald.  No motive and according to the TSBD employees testimony, no opportunity.

If you read about McKinley Lee you will see the assassin's bullet is NOT what killed him!  The lousy butcher job that the "doctor" did to remove the bullet is what killed him as a major infection set in.

So in essence, it was a conspiracy as you would assume a President would get the best of care!


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Ian, I don't have a problem letting it go.  Thing is, I let it go and then I sign onto the forum the very next day to see that Caprio has attributed another statement  to me that I have never made.  Anyone can see this and hopefully it has cost him some serious credibility.

 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Folks like Bill lie about what you say, they play games, the NEVER CITE for anything yet they always claim the other person is "losing credibility!"

I guess it is true in a way has you have to HAVE CREDIBILITY TO START WITH TO LOSE ANY LATER ON, RIGHT?

 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Robbie. I could be wrong and let me know if I am. Didn't you say 2 days ago that doctors saw an entrance wound in JFK's temple? I believe I asked you to name the doctors. I have seen no such list. This is when you lose credibility.
If it wasn't you that said it let me know.


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Brian Walker has got to be, without doubt, the stupidest man alive. I'll reply to his stupid post tomorrow. Navigating the site and posting on an iPhone is far too difficult. Needless to say he has outdone his stupidity by bringing up General Walker. Who was it that said it couldn't have been Oswald who took a pop at him? Oh yeah, that would have been General Walker. I sure expect my General's to know the difference between copper jacketed and steel jacketed bullets. Brian Walker is not a General in the U.S. Army nor is he a relative of Edwin, but he's asking us to believe that Walker got this wrong and was wrong to be so vocal about the fact that the bullet that is in evidence is not the bullet that was picked out of his wall. Brian Walker is not only an  cop but he's a clueless  cop.


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