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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
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August 25, 2010, 07:55:38 PM
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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
I hate the 'sides'. The truth won't conform to either side's wishes. Plus when you say Nuts, I think Lone Nuts. I thought the CTs were kooks. 
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August 25, 2010, 08:44:08 PM
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Don't worry about it, Brian. There will never be any proof of any conspiracy. There hasn't been any proof of a conspiracy so far and there never will be. This is simply because there was not a conspiracy. If there were a conspiracy, it would be out in the open by now. If there were a conspiracy, there would be overwhelming evidence by now. Overwhelming enough to the point that there would be no debate. This hasn't happened and it never will. There was no conspiracy. This only happened one way and it was the act of one lone nut. One lone nut who murdered two men, two men who deserved better.
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"Reason does not always appeal to unreasonable men." - John F. Kennedy
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August 25, 2010, 09:24:02 PM
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Don't worry about it, Brian. There will never be any proof of any conspiracy. There hasn't been any proof of a conspiracy so far and there never will be. This is simply because there was not a conspiracy. If there were a conspiracy, it would be out in the open by now. If there were a conspiracy, there would be overwhelming evidence by now. Overwhelming enough to the point that there would be no debate. This hasn't happened and it never will. There was no conspiracy. This only happened one way and it was the act of one lone nut. One lone nut who murdered two men, two men who deserved better.
A small conspiracy would be difficult to detect, yet alone prove. I think what you say is partically correct. We can rule out a big conspiracy at this point. (What's a big conspiracy? I don't know... 20 or more people)
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August 26, 2010, 12:44:45 AM
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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
Q: if it's an open and shut case, why did none of the eyewitnesses, including those staring at the back of Kennedy's head, note an impact at that location, and why does the Z-film also fail to show blood erupting from the back of Kennedy's head? I mean, people are always simulating the shooting of Kennedy by shooting watermelons, fluid-filled skulls, etc...and fluid always explodes back out the entrance location. So why none here? Could it be that the large wound depicted in frame 313 was a wound of both entrance and exit, as originally concluded by the man who pronounced him dead, Dr. William Kemp Clark?
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August 26, 2010, 01:23:20 AM
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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
Q: if it's an open and shut case, why did none of the eyewitnesses, including those staring at the back of Kennedy's head, note an impact at that location, and why does the Z-film also fail to show blood erupting from the back of Kennedy's head? I mean, people are always simulating the shooting of Kennedy by shooting watermelons, fluid-filled skulls, etc...and fluid always explodes back out the entrance location. So why none here? Could it be that the large wound depicted in frame 313 was a wound of both entrance and exit, as originally concluded by the man who pronounced him dead, Dr. William Kemp Clark? Where did Dr. Clark describe a communicating wound of the head? Herbert
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August 26, 2010, 02:16:39 AM
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Q: if it's an open and shut case, why did none of the eyewitnesses, including those staring at the back of Kennedy's head, note an impact at that location, and why does the Z-film also fail to show blood erupting from the back of Kennedy's head? So why none here?It doesn't look like there was much blood or brain matter left , if it followed the path of least resistance why would it drain backwards through a small hole when there was a gaping hole in the direction that it was already moving. ? Do they rule out the back of the head as an entrance wound ? I mean, people are always simulating the shooting of Kennedy by shooting watermelons, fluid-filled skulls, etc...and fluid always explodes back out the entrance location. Could it be that the large wound depicted in frame 313 was a wound of both entrance and exit, as originally concluded by the man who pronounced him dead, Dr. William Kemp Clark? I doubt it, it looks like a bullet through the back of the skull goes through and takes a large chunk of the skull on the way out the front / right side, all of JFK's movements coincide with a shot from the back and there was no where that he could have been shot from in the front that makes any sense, since Jackie was not hit. At about 1:58 into this reenactment you can see that there was no matter traveling backwars out of the skull or very little. <![CDATA[As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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LN; So how did it happen then ?
CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.
LN; We should not use evidence in this case ?
CT; Correct.
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August 26, 2010, 03:19:24 AM
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Yes but...okay fine, no proof. YET. What keeps drawing me in is the possibility of stitching a narrative together that makes sense. LHO acting all alone, start to finish, may eventually be how history records it but it makes no sense to me on a certain level.
Mark, hint for you. History has already recorded it that way. Man in building shot a man in a car. The evidence says so. It would make sense to you if it were anybody but the POTUS.
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August 26, 2010, 06:03:25 AM
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Yes but...okay fine, no proof. YET. What keeps drawing me in is the possibility of stitching a narrative together that makes sense. LHO acting all alone, start to finish, may eventually be how history records it but it makes no sense to me on a certain level.
Mark, I'm sure you're aware that I'm waiting for you. Right?
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August 26, 2010, 06:06:13 AM
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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
Q: if it's an open and shut case, why did none of the eyewitnesses, including those staring at the back of Kennedy's head, note an impact at that location, and why does the Z-film also fail to show blood erupting from the back of Kennedy's head? I mean, people are always simulating the shooting of Kennedy by shooting watermelons, fluid-filled skulls, etc...and fluid always explodes back out the entrance location. So why none here? Could it be that the large wound depicted in frame 313 was a wound of both entrance and exit, as originally concluded by the man who pronounced him dead, Dr. William Kemp Clark? Pat, there was no blood/tissue spray seen in the Zapruder film to indicate a 2nd shot to the head. Clearly, the only blood/tissue spray seen in the Zapruder film was from the one head shot, which obviously came from behind.
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August 26, 2010, 09:15:19 AM
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In the last couple of days we have seen more of the usual. The Nuts trying to twist everthing, while trying to make this look like a conspiracy.
Zapruder is a strong witness for the LN side, but one of the nuts has tried to twist this in the last couple of days.
Zapruder said he heard 2 or 3 shots. The LN side said there were 3 shots.
Zapruder said they was so much reverberation and echos to tell where the shots came from. The LN side has always said alot of people couldn't tell because of these factors.
And Zapruder also testfied and said right on TV on 11/22 that the right wide of JFK's head opened up. Exactly like the autopsy photos and the Zfilm shot.
This is when they become nuts and nothing but. When they are so obsessed with trying to make it look like a conspiracy that facts no longer matter. Its like a religious belief to many of the nuts. The truth no loger matters, its all about trying to back up their fantasy.
And oh yeah there was the case this week of the nuts once again taking a vague statement from Rub try and show he admitted to a conspiracy. Which of course is a lie, but they try it about once a month.
I don't understand how anyone can be s obsessed with a theory that they are wlling to lie to try and back it. Can anyone of the LN who used to be a CT explain how it gets to this.
Q: if it's an open and shut case, why did none of the eyewitnesses, including those staring at the back of Kennedy's head, note an impact at that location, and why does the Z-film also fail to show blood erupting from the back of Kennedy's head? I mean, people are always simulating the shooting of Kennedy by shooting watermelons, fluid-filled skulls, etc...and fluid always explodes back out the entrance location. So why none here? Could it be that the large wound depicted in frame 313 was a wound of both entrance and exit, as originally concluded by the man who pronounced him dead, Dr. William Kemp Clark? Where did Dr. Clark describe a communicating wound of the head? Herbert Mr. SPECTER - What, if anything, did you say then in the course of that press conference? Dr. CLARK - I described the President's wound in his head in very much the same way as I have described it here. I was asked if this wound was an entrance wound, an exit wound, or what, and I said it could be an exit wound, but I felt it was a tangential wound. Mr. SPECTER - Which wound did you refer to at this time? Dr. CLARK - The wound in the head. Mr. SPECTER - Did you describe at that time what you meant by "tangential"? Dr. CLARK - Yes, sir; I did. Mr. SPECTER - What definition of "tangential" did you make at that time? Dr. CLARK - As I remember, I defined the word "tangential" as being---striking an object obliquely, not squarely or head on. Mr. SPECTER - Will you describe at this time in somewhat greater detail the consequences of a tangential wound as contrasted with another type of a striking? Dr. CLARK - Let me begin by saying that the damage suffered by an organ when struck by a bullet or other missile--- Mr. SPECTER - May the record show that I interrupted the deposition for about 2 minutes to ascertain what our afternoon schedule would be here because the regular administration office ordinarily closes at 12 o'clock, which was just about 15 minutes ago, and then we resumed the deposition of Dr. Clark as he was discussing the concept of tangential and other types of striking. Go ahead, Doctor. Dr. CLARK - The effects of any missile striking an organ or a function of the energy which is shed by the missile in passing through this organ when a bullet strikes the head, if it is able to pass through rapidly without shedding any energy into the brain, little damage results, other than that part of the brain which is directly penetrated by the missile. However, if it strikes the skull at an angle, it must then penetrate much more bone than normal, therefore, is likely to shed more energy, striking the brain a more powerful blow. Secondly, in striking the bone in this manner, it may cause pieces of the bone to be blown into the brain and thus act as secondary missiles. Finally, the bullet itself may be deformed and deflected so that it would go through or penetrate parts of the brain, not in the usual direct line it was proceeding. Mr. SPECTER - Now, referring back to the press conference, did you define a tangential wound at that time? Dr. CLARK - Yes.
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