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December 07, 2008, 11:39:39 PM
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I love it too listen Dr. Wecht. 8)
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December 08, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
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Paul,
You're just not being rational. You think Dr. Wecht kicked Bugliosi's butt? You've got to be kidding me. Did you listen to the entire thing like I did? I will admit that I love listening to Wecht speak, but that does not mean that he won the argument. In fact, just the opposite happened. Bugliosi won this debate. I actually lost a little respect for Wecht when he stated that the bullet that passed through Kennedy's neck could have exited the entire presidential limo. That was a LUDICROUS statement, to say the least. It makes me wonder if Wecht even knows what he's talking about regarding other issues. Paul, let me ask you, in your opinion, what happened to the bullet after it passed through Kennedy's neck? Please don't give me any of that bullsh*t about it continuing on a straight line and exiting the limo. Bugliosi made the best point in the entire debate when he said that anyone that believes the bullet exited the car after going through Kennedy's neck, they've just created the real "magic bullet".
Bugliosi won this thing hands down! Score one for the Warren Commission.
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Ian Lloyd |
December 08, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
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Bill,
Do you believe CE399 caused Connally's wrist injury? I wonder since, according to the surgeon who operated on Connally, Dr. Gregory, the wound was caused by an "irregular missile"...CE399 doesn't seem to me to be an "irregular missile".
Dr. GREGORY. Yes; debridement is a surgical term used to designate that procedure in attending a wound which removes by sharp excision all nonvital tissue in the area together with any identifiable foreign objects. In attending this wound, it was evident early that clot had been carried into the wound from the dorsal surface to the bone and into the fracture. This would imply that an irregular missile had passed through the wrist from the dorsal to the volar aspect. (emphasis mine)
He also goes on to say that the missile "probably was distorted":
...Now, just how much, depends of course upon what the original missile weighed. In other words, on the basis of the metal left behind in Governor Connally's body, as far as I could tell, the missile that struck it could be virtually intact, insofar as mass was concerned, but probably was distorted. (emphasis mine)
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December 08, 2008, 11:40:35 PM
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Hi Bill :) How did you declare the pristine look of this bullet (CE399) causing so much damage? As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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Register or LoginDr. Wecht is an expert, many others too. They all say: Impossible. I think they're right. And i've never heard a logical explanation, regarding this, from the ones who believed in the magic bullet theory. Martin
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Ian Lloyd |
December 09, 2008, 08:44:24 AM
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Ian,
That doesn't prove anything. There is just as much testimony, if not more, of medical experts believing that the single bullet, CE399, caused all wounds.
Bill, The testimony of experts believing that CE399 caused all of the wounds is speculation on their part. A number of experts i.e. medical professionals with experience of bullet wounds, actually stated that they did not think the bullet could have caused all the wounds without suffering major damage itself. The only "hard" evidence were the wounds on JFK and JBC. During the autopsy, the prosectors could not trace a path from the back wound through the body of JFK and only resorted to the story that the bullet had passed completely through him was when they heard about the front throat wound. The description of JBC's wrist wound leads me to believe that it was caused by something other than CE399 since, whilst not actually pristine, it certainly does not appear to me to be irregular or distorted to the extent where that distortion could be recognised from a wrist wound when operated on by another expert, familiar with bullet wounds.
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Ian Lloyd |
December 09, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
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I rest on my comments earlier in the thread.
Your prerogative...
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Ian Lloyd |
December 10, 2008, 08:45:25 AM
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I just want one of you to tell me where the bullet went that passed thru Kennedy, if it didn't hit Connally?? No bullet was found in the car.
Fragments were found in the car - would you expect a whole, unmutilated bullet to have been found? If so, would it actually have had to have finished up in the car?
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