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 July 26, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
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<a href="http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?action=login">Login</a>]]> a few questions - 1) their is another rifle on the floor at their feet while they are inspecting the carcano. at around 5-7 seconds into the video which one is that ? a policemen's? 2) this is a side strap mounted rifle, is'nt the rifle shown in the backyard photo's a bottom mounted strap? are these able to be universaly mounted? just kinda curious what you guy's and gal's views are on this
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August 11, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
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Jim, A little clearer frame for you. chris  There is something there which looks like a plank of wood, not a rifle or shotgun. You need to compare other footage before and after and maybe photographs to see if there is a similar object in that area. Anthony, I thought Duncan enhanced it quite well. Here's an outline for you. What type is it, I don't know. chris  Her
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August 11, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
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This barrel seems too slender for a shotgun.   it's not the barrel it is the stock, the rifle-butt... or whatever it is called in english i'd say.
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August 11, 2010, 06:13:46 PM
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This barrel seems too slender for a shotgun. it's not the barrel it is the stock, the rifle-butt... or whatever it is called in english i'd say. This is a rifle stock?  yes, the flat side is what we see. not the broad side.... shall i draw a picture or what.
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August 11, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
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This barrel seems too slender for a shotgun. it's not the barrel it is the stock, the rifle-butt... or whatever it is called in english i'd say. This is a rifle stock? yes, the flat side is what we see. not the broad side.... shall i draw a picture or what. IMO, I don't think this is a rifle or a shot gun. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The gun beneath the MC is a DPD shotgun: 
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August 12, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
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Whats puzzling me is the fact that Lt. Day was from the very first moments after the discover of the rifle
aware that it was an italian 6.5mm caliber rifle. He examined it with magnifying glasses.
How does it come to a confusion to this extend, whether it was a Mauser broadcasted several times on television?
Heck, even Weitzman testied on november 23, 1963 in his affidavite that it was a Mauser.
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August 13, 2010, 01:12:25 AM
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Whats puzzling me is the fact that Lt. Day was from the very first moments after the discover of the rifle
aware that it was an italian 6.5mm caliber rifle. He examined it with magnifying glasses.
How does it come to a confusion to this extend, whether it was a Mauser broadcasted several times on television?
Heck, even Weitzman testied on november 23, 1963 in his affidavite that it was a Mauser.
Not quite. Day did not know the country of origin immediately or the make and model. It was not that easy to see MADE ITALY or know that Terni is a factory in Italy. Fritz asked Weitzman was he thought it was and Weitzman said it looked like a Mauser. That is where the rumor began. Only when Day got it back to the lab and examined it more carefully did he figure out that it was a Mannlicher-Carcano. Weitzman was saying it was a Mauser even before Day examined it. It wasn't Day's fault. But Weitzman did eventually admit he only glanced at the rifle from a distance and guessed wrong.
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August 13, 2010, 02:58:13 AM
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I've just read this thread for the first time. The weapon, to me, appears to be a DPD shotgun. Nothing sinister to see here. There certainly is no proof that it is a Mauser. Secondly, in the video posted by Duncan, to me it is easy to see that the object being removed from the top of the box is something along the lines of a clipboard. Again, certainly not a rifle or a shotgun. So, I guess I have to say that I agree with Miles on these issues. 
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August 13, 2010, 02:20:44 PM
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I've just read this thread for the first time. The weapon, to me, appears to be a DPD shotgun. Nothing sinister to see here. There certainly is no proof that it is a Mauser. Secondly, in the video posted by Duncan, to me it is easy to see that the object being removed from the top of the box is something along the lines of a clipboard. Again, certainly not a rifle or a shotgun. So, I guess I have to say that I agree with Miles on these issues. You have zero proof that you agree with me. If you do, let's see it. You are just wildly speculating without any common sense. Typical LN methodology. Right?
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August 14, 2010, 09:02:07 AM
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I've just read this thread for the first time. The weapon, to me, appears to be a DPD shotgun. Nothing sinister to see here. There certainly is no proof that it is a Mauser. Secondly, in the video posted by Duncan, to me it is easy to see that the object being removed from the top of the box is something along the lines of a clipboard. Again, certainly not a rifle or a shotgun. So, I guess I have to say that I agree with Miles on these issues. You have zero proof that you agree with me. If you do, let's see it. You are just wildly speculating without any common sense. Typical LN methodology. Right? Yes, Miles. To agree with you is usually proof that one is not using common sense! You make a very good point here.
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August 14, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
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I've just read this thread for the first time. The weapon, to me, appears to be a DPD shotgun. Nothing sinister to see here. There certainly is no proof that it is a Mauser. Secondly, in the video posted by Duncan, to me it is easy to see that the object being removed from the top of the box is something along the lines of a clipboard. Again, certainly not a rifle or a shotgun. So, I guess I have to say that I agree with Miles on these issues. You have zero proof that you agree with me. If you do, let's see it. You are just wildly speculating without any common sense. Typical LN methodology. Right? Yes, Miles. To agree with you is usually proof that one is not using common sense! You make a very good point here. Correct! As with Fritz, smoke, Gordon Arnold, echos, and the list marches on. Talley HO!
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