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Question: Is the man seen in the photographs (below) the same man?  (Voting closed: December 27, 2009, 11:22:54 PM)
yes - 7 (36.8%)
no - 11 (57.9%)
not sure - 1 (5.3%)
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Was Eugene Brading (aka Jim Braden) photographed in Dealet Plaza?  (Read 7702 times)

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Miles,

Great composite work on your part clapxx

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Thanks, John. Coming from an old time veteran of the genera such as yourself and from the owner & master of a major collection of JFK related photos (see: John Woods Collection, Robin Unger's Image Galleries - Hosted By "Duncan MacRae's" JFK Assassination Forum), I take your comment as a real compliment. Thanks! And thanks for voting: yes.

I hope everyone studies these composites closely. Regardless of the out come of the poll, if this is Brading, as I believe & you believe, then this is highly significant & loaded with implication.

BTW, a respected student of the photo record, Alan Healy, posted this today on another thread:



 


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Miles I'm going with the Indentation's on both sides of the nose and with age the cheeks hang pulling down the corners of the mouth., I voted yes, What did I win!


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I, like Terry, voted YES too...earlier this evening.
You'd better have TWO of those prizes Miles. One for Terry, and one for me!!!  lmao


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Miles, Braden was discovered in the Daltex building by the elevator operator and was then questioned by a deputy and taken to the Sheriff's office, where he was questioned again and wrote an affidavit.

I could be wrong, but if memory serves, some of those photos were taken shortly after the assassination. If so, I don't think he could have been there then.



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Robert, I was understanding that Braden walked along Elm before he was arrested. "He said he strolled down into the plaza & up to the TSBD after the murder before going in the other building where he got collared." But, the question is about the photos. Look again, without considering anything but the photos. What do you think? I think you will find that they are all of one man: Brading.

(PS: Robert, you didn't vote based on what you allow may be faulty memory, did you?)


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Miles I'm going with the Indentation's on both sides of the nose and with age the cheeks hang pulling down the corners of the mouth., I voted yes, What did I win!

Good eyes, Terry.  clapxx


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Miles I'm going with the Indentation's on both sides of the nose and with age the cheeks hang pulling down the corners of the mouth., I voted yes, What did I win!

Good eyes, Terry.  clapxx



All,

As I recall the identification of the man in the B&W DP photo (an Allen photo, the color Skaggs was not availble then) was made in the mid 1970s by Deputy Sherrif Lummie Lewis, who was the offical who questioned Braden. I think this may be expalined in Peter Noyes book Lecacy of Doubt.

Also, as I recall from reading Braden's HSCA deposition some time back, Braden claims he never made it down as far into Dealey Plaza as the man in the Allen photograph is seen. I recall Braden saying he walked down to Elm and Houston from where he was at point East on Elm street from Houston and never made it past the area of the Dal-Tex/TSBD.

FWIW.

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Miles I'm going with the Indentation's on both sides of the nose and with age the cheeks hang pulling down the corners of the mouth., I voted yes, What did I win!

Good eyes, Terry.  clapxx



All,

As I recall the identification of the man in the B&W DP photo (an Allen photo, the color Skaggs was not availble then) was made in the mid 1970s by Deputy Sherrif Lummie Lewis, who was the offical who questioned Braden. I think this may be expalined in Peter Noyes book Lecacy of Doubt.

Also, as I recall from reading Braden's HSCA deposition some time back, Braden claims he never made it down as far into Dealey Plaza as the man in the Allen photograph is seen. I recall Braden saying he walked down to Elm and Houston from where he was at point East on Elm street from Houston and never made it past the area of the Dal-Tex/TSBD.

FWIW.

Todd

All,

Relying on uncertain and foggy recollection is not good research. Cite your sources.

The question, as already stated several times, is limited to the photographs. After all, Brading was a known criminal. Can you trust his statements?

So, again, base your judgment on the photographs only.    warrenxx


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Miles, I did a study on Braden a few years ago, and I concluded that the man we see on the knoll is not Braden.
I've tried to track down the study, but I have had no success so far.
The key to all of this is a photograph which I traced of this same man that we see on the knoll, leaving a building with Robert Oswald after the death of Lee.


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Miles, I did a study on Braden a few years ago, and I concluded that the man we see on the knoll is not Braden.
I've tried to tack down the study, but I have had no success so far.
The key to all of this is a photograph which I traced of this same man that we see on the knoll, leaving a building with Robert Oswald after the death of Lee.

That sounds interesting, Duncan. There is no hurry. So, keep looking for your study. Great.    thumbs1xx

Meanwhile, it appears that the man is Brading in the photos because attempts are made to posit the contrary by arguments that it could not be Brading because he was elsewhere.  Oh Ho.


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Miles I'm going with the Indentation's on both sides of the nose and with age the cheeks hang pulling down the corners of the mouth., I voted yes, What did I win!

Good eyes, Terry.  clapxx



All,

As I recall the identification of the man in the B&W DP photo (an Allen photo, the color Skaggs was not availble then) was made in the mid 1970s by Deputy Sherrif Lummie Lewis, who was the offical who questioned Braden. I think this may be expalined in Peter Noyes book Lecacy of Doubt.

Also, as I recall from reading Braden's HSCA deposition some time back, Braden claims he never made it down as far into Dealey Plaza as the man in the Allen photograph is seen. I recall Braden saying he walked down to Elm and Houston from where he was at point East on Elm street from Houston and never made it past the area of the Dal-Tex/TSBD.

FWIW.

Todd

All,

Relying on uncertain and foggy recollection is not good research. Cite your sources.

The question, as already stated several times, is limited to the photographs. After all, Brading was a know criminal. Can you trust his statements?

So, again, base your judgment on the photographs only.    warrenxx


Miles,

1.) I didn't "rely" on anything. I cleary pointed out that what I was saying was a recollection.

2.) I DID cite my sources, how could you have missed that?

3.) I'm not passing judgment on what Braden said, only pointing it out.

4.) The two things I brought up relate DIRECTLY to the photographs.


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Miles, I did a study on Braden a few years ago, and I concluded that the man we see on the knoll is not Braden.
I've tried to tack down the study, but I have had no success so far.
The key to all of this is a photograph which I traced of this same man that we see on the knoll, leaving a building with Robert Oswald after the death of Lee.

That sounds interesting, Duncan. There is no hurry. So, keep looking for your study. Great.    thumbs1xx

Meanwhile, it appears that the man is Brading in the photos because attempts are made to posit the contrary by arguments that it could not be Brading because he was elsewhere.  Oh Ho.


Miles,

So because I point out what Braden told the HSCA I'm trying to argue that it's not Braden? I said nothing of the sort. I'm just reporting what the guy said.

And because I'm supposedly trying to argue that it's not Braden (I am not) it must then therefore be Braden? And to think, this in reply to a post where Duncan said he also dosnt think it's Braden?

What a twisted way of looking at things.

Todd


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