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Edited..On close inspection, Rick is correct.  <![CDATA[As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
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November 21, 2009, 01:54:31 AM
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I think that's John Connally attempting to raise himself up. JBC is in shock and probably has no recollection of doing that. That happens to people who are shot.
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November 21, 2009, 04:13:12 AM
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I think that's John Connally attempting to raise himself up. JBC is in shock and probably has no recollection of doing that. That happens to people who are shot.
Jerry
Jerry, I think that you're mistaken. I do believe that is JFK. You can see the pink pillbox hat of Jackie's right next to him. And he is sitting nearly straight up in the rear seat, to the far right hand side. Also, wasn't Connally unconscious at this time? I doubt Nellie would try to sit him back up again. She helped pull him down into her lap while she was ducking down herself....getting both of them out of the line of fire. JFK was....well, pretty much expired at this point, and I would assume that Jackie realized this herself.
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« Last Edit: November 21, 2009, 07:35:49 AM by Rick Needham »
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November 21, 2009, 04:22:17 AM
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The president had slumped down and to his left (which proves his back brace was NOT the cause for his lack
of evasive action prior to the fatal head shot)
Rick, The brace might have prevented him from toppling forward, given its configuration. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what kind of movement was possible or provable.
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November 21, 2009, 05:33:55 AM
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The president had slumped down and to his left (which proves his back brace was NOT the cause for his lack
of evasive action prior to the fatal head shot)
Rick, The brace might have prevented him from toppling forward, given its configuration. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what kind of movement was possible or provable. . * * TS = toxic sludge
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November 21, 2009, 05:59:07 AM
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The president had slumped down and to his left (which proves his back brace was NOT the cause for his lack
of evasive action prior to the fatal head shot)
Rick, The brace might have prevented him from toppling forward, given its configuration. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what kind of movement was possible or provable. Mark, Toppling forward, maybe. And you are correct...no one can say with any certainty. But when it comes to lateral, or sidewards movement, well....we can see that was possible, can we not? Rick
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« Last Edit: November 21, 2009, 06:18:16 AM by Rick Needham »
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November 21, 2009, 03:36:02 PM
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The giggler says: Yes, certainty is not possible, unless the wild card is in the deck: i.e., TS. * * TS = toxic sludge[/quote] Internet stalking is bizarre and psychotic. Same old melody again and again.
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November 21, 2009, 03:56:58 PM
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Mark,
Toppling forward, maybe. And you are correct...no one can say with any certainty. But when it comes to lateral, or sidewards movement, well....we can see that was possible,
can we not?
Rick
Rick, Absolutely correct. Perhaps the figure-eight wrapping that went underneath JFK's legs and around his back had something to do with it. When JFK slumped to the left was his wife holding his body up? Then when she climbed onto the rear of the limo he was able to fall freely? Also in your video it does look like there's a lot of activity in the Connally's seat. I had never noticed so much movement before -
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November 21, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
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Mark,
Toppling forward, maybe. And you are correct...no one can say with any certainty. But when it comes to lateral, or sidewards movement, well....we can see that was possible,
can we not?
Rick
Rick, Absolutely correct. Perhaps the figure-eight wrapping that went underneath JFK's legs and around his back had something to do with it. When JFK slumped to the left was his wife holding his body up? Then when she climbed onto the rear of the limo he was able to fall freely? Also in your video it does look like there's a lot of activity in the Connally's seat. I had never noticed so much movement before - Mark, He was leaning in towards Jackie, even prior to the head shot. After the head shot, he slumped even more towards her. Then, when she climbed out onto the rear of the limo, his body slowly fell laterally as far as it could go. Think of it this way. The upper torso can bend down & forward at the hip area further and much easier than it can when trying to bend off to ones side...in this case, JFK's left side. But the Zapruder film has shown us this was possible. Then why didn't he himself administer some type of evasive action? Rick
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