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Well he verifies that the shadows are in fact consistent, even though they don't appear to be. And he makes his case pretty convincingly I'd say. He doesn't tackle some of the other problems with the photographs though, such as the size of the newspapers.


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I believe he is just a professor at this point, and did a study folks would be interested in. 

That he is a Dartmouth professor would give him some recognition and his method of trying to use 3D as well.

I am sure your studies are great. 

I think we can suspect someone all day long, but all it does is bother us.

All I am saying is a better answer may be yours, if you just try it.  Maybe, if you are correct, you could change his mind.  It has happened before, so I am just telling you to try.

No harm in it, and the potential  may be great if it works.  Remember, you share a common bond with him, in the 3D aspect.  If it doesn't work, at least you tried.

This is for Kennedy, and answers to what happened, so the purpose is an excellent one, above who is right.

Just treat him with utmost respect.


Kathy
 

I will try to contact him Kathy. You convinced me.

Let's wait what he might tell.

I'll let you know what his answer will be....if.
Don't worry, i will be utmost respectful.
Thank you.  hat;;


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Although I'm unconvinced the backyard photos are fake, one thing the professor said did strike me as a bit odd. He says that it would have been hard or impossible for any faker to get the shadows right without modern technology. Well if they are fakes, wouldn't they just copy the shadows on the face of the person who's actually posing for the photo?


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Although I'm unconvinced the backyard photos are fake, one thing the professor said did strike me as a bit odd. He says that it would have been hard or impossible for any faker to get the shadows right without modern technology. Well if they are fakes, wouldn't they just copy the shadows on the face of the person who's actually posing for the photo?

Barry, it was possible to fake that image even in 1963.
No problem. Cut out just the head and your done.

Take a photo from that fake image after retouching in a proper light and you have negatives as well.

Easy task

Martin


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Martin, it's good to hear that you're busy.

Regarding the authentication of the photos, they have been analyzed for forgery ever since Oswald claimed the photos were fake.  The HSCA took these allegations very seriously and had the photographic panel spend a considerable amount of its time examining the backyard photographs.  The panel conducted many tests, all of which showed the photos to be authentic.  The panel went to great lengths to answer all of the supposed inconsistencies.

Two of the photos were taken a short distance apart of a single scene.  This allows the pictures to be inspected with stereoscopic techniques.  It is impossible to retouch one or both images of a stereo pair without escaping detection.  The HSCA found no evidence of retouching.

Regarding unnatural shadows, varying exposures indicate that the shadows are indeed normal.  The shadows were also found to be directionally consistent.

Most cameras leave particular frame edge markings on negatives and pictures, typically in a pattern unique to a particular camera, kind of like a fingerprint.  Oswald's camera was positively identified as the camera that made the one existing negative and one of the photos (only one photo showed the frame edge markings).

Bill, I'm just looking for someone to duplicate the shadows. Any panel of whoever can tell me all day long that these are normal but unless they can reproduce them it doesn't matter. Did the HSCA panel reproduce the effect ?  I'm not trying to say these photos are definitely touched up or they weren't just saying that if they weren't it should not be that hard to show that by reproducing it, I mean its just the sun and some shadows, we don't really need all the scientific stuff to prove it either way. While 3D is a great tool I am sure, it really has no place no here in my opinion as I would say you can either reproduce it naturally or you can't, so far no one has. What ever Martin comes up with on his 3D will be significantly more reliable to me than the others I have seen as he seems to be very honest about the whole thing.

Either way though , if no one can reproduce the effect in natural sunlight then I think that you have to stay open to the idea that the photos may have been altered, what that means from that point forward will be different for everyone , I don't necessarily believe that it would mean that Oswald was not guilty but rather that someone was making absolutely sure that he hung for it,  at a minimum. Its always nice talking to everyone here about these things and I appreciate all the help that everyone here has given me.


Is it fair & logical to say that if no one can reproduce that shadow effect anywhere on the face of the earth that it's a fairly high possibility that the photos were tampered with ? That seems fair to me,


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LN; So how did it happen then ?

CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.

LN;  We should not use evidence in this case ?

CT; Correct.

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Leave me one question Bill.
What are you know about stereoscopic techniques?

Martin, I know nothing more about stereoscopic techniques other than my experience with my View Master when I was a child (my favorite toy for a while) and the mention of it in a report that I read by a fellow named Fred Litwin, regarding a study of the backyard photos.


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