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Well he verifies that the shadows are in fact consistent, even though they don't appear to be. And he makes his case pretty convincingly I'd say. He doesn't tackle some of the other problems with the photographs though, such as the size of the newspapers.


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Serious doubts about that animation, the 3D figure has shadows in places where none should exist so I have to believe that that's how the whole experiment went, just put them where you want them. I found it funny that in the first 2 minutes when he was rambling on about how the human brain is incapable of determining where a shadow should fall  sheeshxx that he either forgets or omits any and all questions about the chin cleft which by the way his model did not have. I suppose some day someone that knows what they are doing will do a real and fair analysis of this shadow thing, it was nice to see him refute the other expert's neck shadow though.


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LN; So how did it happen then ?

CT; I don't know, I only know that it didn't happen the way the evidence says.

LN;  We should not use evidence in this case ?

CT; Correct.

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He directly refutes this expert with the neck shadow.

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How do they refute this one ?


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A direct link to the story in todays issue of the biggest newspaper in N.H.


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"you're the cop, you figure it out"
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of 11-22-63.

"Part of the reason why we avoided talking about this thing, because every time you say something, somebody misinterprets what you say."
-James. J. Humes, excerpt of ARRB statement, 2-13-96

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So the backyard photos are real, not faked.  Problem solved!  Time to move on.


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So the backyard photos are real, not faked.  Problem solved!  Time to move on.

Bill how can you look at the photos and not acknowledge that there is a problem with them, neither expert reports anything that makes any sense. One even refutes the other one, but neither refute the one that I posted which I copied from another thread here. What do you see or hear the expert say that solves anything ? He starts out saying that he used a program to make Oswald's face and yet it has no cleft in the chin, how reliable can either the expert or the program be ? Seems to be a joke to me, until someone actually does a real test that accurately duplicates the photo that Oswald is in , there is more evidence of tampering than there is not. You can't make a shadow do what it does in Oswald's photo, he's just showing you a picture of something on a computer screen, its worthless in all honesty Bill.

The guy spent two minutes telling you that his brain can not predict a shadow, and the next two telling you how he is certain its genuine, do you see a problem with that ? So much for the sun dial theory, I guess they never really knew what time it was.,,lol


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So the backyard photos are real, not faked.  Problem solved!  Time to move on.

Bill how can you look at the photos and not acknowledge that there is a problem with them, neither expert reports anything that makes any sense. One even refutes the other one, but neither refute the one that I posted which I copied from another thread here. What do you see or hear the expert say that solves anything ? He starts out saying that he used a program to make Oswald's face and yet it has no cleft in the chin, how reliable can either the expert or the program be ? Seems to be a joke to me, until someone actually does a real test that accurately duplicates the photo that Oswald is in , there is more evidence of tampering than there is not. You can't make a shadow do what it does in Oswald's photo, he's just showing you a picture of something on a computer screen, its worthless in all honesty Bill.

The guy spent two minutes telling you that his brain can not predict a shadow, and the next two telling you how he is certain its genuine, do you see a problem with that ? So much for the sun dial theory, I guess they never really knew what time it was.,,lol

Mark, anytime that you're ready to do a study on the backyard photos and the shadows in those photos and come to a conclusion based on that study and post those conclusions for all to see, I will be ready to look.  I don't see how you can just simply look at the photos and come to the realization that they are fake.  That's all you appear to be doing here.


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That is all I'm doing , its pretty clear that they don't match up and neither one of the experts have done anything to refute that,  although have refuted each other. The picture of the real guy in my post shows what the shadow would do, I'm just asking for one photo that actually duplicates the BY photo, it shouldn't be that hard to produce if this is a naturally occurring event, yet no one does.


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I think the backyard photos have been a bit of a cul de sac for a long time. I've never had any problems with them been genuine and I don't think they indicate Oswald's guilty in the Kennedy murder, they just reinfornce the already ovberwheling impression that Oswald is a double agent. You only have to see past the idea of fakery and actually look at what's really happening in those photos to understand they're purpose. The famous inscription on the back of the De Mohrenschildt nails it for me - 'hunter of fascists, ha ha ha'. That inscription is sarcastic.

Although having said that, there is an interesting past on another forum about the 2 newspapers Oswald is holding to suggest there may have been some fakery involved there. But we don't need fakery and my natural assumption is to assume photographic evidence is genuine.


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Why go through a 3D program which is inherently flawed when they can just go stand outside and take a photo ? I really don't understand that concept.


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