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From where was Connally shot?  (Read 2542 times)

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I have my doubts about the single bullet theory, I don't see it lining up from the 6th floor of the TSBD. However, if JFK and Connally weren't hit by the same bullet, some other bullet had to hit Conally in the back.

The problem I have with this is, JFK was blocking the view to Conally the entire time as I see it, so naturally that brings up the question: From where and when was Connally shot, if the same bullet didn't hit both men? Was there a clear view to Connally from the TSBD, Dal-Tex or Records Building at any time?

I would like to hear everybody's opinion on this, especially those who don't believe JFK and Connally were hit by the same bullet.


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Looks like I'm working in a vacuum here........

Let's try another diagram. This time I have changed Jackie's color to pink. I have also placed JBC at a position for the SBT to work from the sniper's nest in the TSBD (green). The JBC position in red is if we keep him at the same angle in the seat but shift him inboard. Unfortunately for the SBT to work both of these positions would not allow Jackie's lower left arm to be visible from Zapruder as JBC would be blocking it.

You can see "if" there was a single bullet that did all the damage to both JFK and JBC it most likely came from the DalTex (red line).


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I have now overlayed both JFK and JBC using the graphic from Meyers' video. (I know there are issues with the scaling, but please bear with me). JBC is placed in the position Meyers would require for the SB strike at z224. Kennedy is not appropriately rescaled but JBC's shoulders at 17" or so works well with the jump seats which were 20.5". The key issue here is that in this position Zapruder could not have seen the left side of Jackie through the gap in the jumpseats. He must have been closer to the right side of the car.

So we have no single bullet trajectory at z223. But JFK reacting at this point. SBT is not possible from the TSBD for any frame before z223 IMO.

Would appreciate comments please.....


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Bumping......no thoughts on this?

Anyone of the Meyers believers want to offer alternatives?


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Impressive graphics here by Mr. Crow...............Thank You
Two premises put forth so far here are very questionable......
      
Premise 1:

(1) The oval-shaped entry wound could only be caused by a tumbeling bullet....
      

       Mr. Ian Lloyd........ has it right...............it was a more on an angle at entry to
       the  Governors' back.........from a steeper angle.
       The Governor also heard the first shot...he immediately recognized the shot as gunfire
       he said he then twisted around to look over his right shoulder to see the President ...
       and had time to start to look over his other shoulder...when he was hit.
       His leaning back/twisting movement also helped cause the irregular wound.
       The shot was from the Depository west window.
      
       The Governor was a victim only 3 feet from Kennedy...He was there ..........and that is a strong testimony
       which  holds more weight than anybody else on this forum.
       The 2nd shot was meant to be a fatal head shot to Kennedy but it missed slightly as Kennedy moved
        his head position to the left  slightly.
       The perpetrators had complete control of the 6th floor....they wanted to keep the
        assasination contained to there if possible................but they had a back-up plan.

Premise 2:
          
           It's obvious they are both hit by the same bullet on the Zapruder film.
           Mr. Henceruth......what you are seeing is..... a look of alarm on the Governors' face.....and a twisting posture change.
           He had time to say "oh no,no,no!" All this does NOT mean he is shot.
           Connallys' recollections are just too important.
           Thank God he came forth  publicly and raised a matter of a reasonable doubt.

      


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Very interesting work Mr. Crow. The vertical line definitely seems to work better from the Dal-Tex than the TSBD. If the SBT is not true from any of those 2 buildings, the shot to Connally had to come from the west window of the TSBD, the way I see it. Both are indeed possible, I just have doubts over how well the horizontal line from the Dal-Tex 3rd floor or roof would work through JFK and Connally.


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Anyone for the Emmy award winning animator, (no not Matt Groening), support group want to jump in?

They do say silence is golden.......

David, Paul, Bill, Marc......anyone want to rebut this? Can't claim you haven't seen this thread.

If you can't, then the irony is that Specter's theory actually might prove conspiracy. Meyers has given us the tools to do so.

So it's SBT from Daltex, I guess. If SBT at all. No SBT from TSBD that I can determine.


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No Myers defenders yet? I really would like some feedback on this.

Robert?

Martin?

Am I reading too much into this?

PS Sorry for the previous misspelling of Myers.


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No Myers defenders yet? I really would like some feedback on this.

Robert?

Martin?

Am I reading too much into this?

PS Sorry for the previous misspelling of Myers.

Hi Colin.

First you are on the right track, second you will find in me not a defender of Dale K. Myers work on the SBT.

Here is a link to one thread were several flops of Myers are discussed (and some excellent takes from Giuseppe Sabatino btw)

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Myers deformed JFK to a hunchback lookalike, he scaled JFK way to big, he extented the distance between Connally and Kennedy too much
and he exaggerated the position of Connally too far insight the limo to achieve one goal:

To make the SBT possible.

A little bit here, a little bit there just to make sure the cheatings won't be too obvious.
I bet 95% scratched their heads and said, wow. It works. This is not a miracle.

Once you look closer (and you did) you will face the dilemma.
But fortunately for Myers, most people didn't examine it. Just some of us JFK assassination buffs.
Thats exactly what he wanted...... with success and the result to got the great stage with an emmy award.

My interpretation of the SBT is: It's not working from the TSBD nor from any other direction.
To connect all wounds of Connally and Kennedy in one straight trajectory is impossible.

I read Bob see it otherwise and support the DalTex SBT. I believe he did his best to come to this conclusion. And i respect it.

I examined it in 3 Dimensional spaces with the result that both men were hit by seperate bullets.

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Martin


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Martin,

I did not include you or Robert on Myers' fan list. It's just that he seems to have noone to support his work here.......strange how his work claimed to solve the SBT.......oh and before that it was Postner's deflecting branches (Case Closed....yeah right). Before him we had Canning's strange analysis for the HSCA placing the shot at 190......bizarre. It doesn't work because it can't work from the TSBD.

I asked for your opinion because I was aware of your 3d anaytical skills. I have also seen some of Robert's vids also on this topic. I have seen Giuseppe's work too....impressive.

So it seems that most credible analysis, done indepenently, seem to point to similar conclusions. The TSBD SBT is fantasy. There is strong compelling evidence for a DalTex shooter. Maybe it was a SB from there.....I tend to doubt it bacause of the differences in reaction time between JFK and JBC. Either way = conspiracy in the shooting.

The conspiracy after the shooting to find a lone shooter is obvious. Question is....were the two linked or independent.


thanks for your comments

Looks like Dale's been hung out to dry. Maybe the next hero is working on a 3d hologram of Dealey Plaza that will show Oswald sitting in the window and firing.


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Been there, read that.......I have used Myers' own graphics over a scale model of the limo. As we all know his scaling errors are apparent. Why didn't he include Jackie in the animation?

Bill I would be happy if you could post your thoughts and criticism. If I am wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. Show me how I am wrong.


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