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October 21, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
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I have my doubts about the single bullet theory, I don't see it lining up from the 6th floor of the TSBD. However, if JFK and Connally weren't hit by the same bullet, some other bullet had to hit Conally in the back.
The problem I have with this is, JFK was blocking the view to Conally the entire time as I see it, so naturally that brings up the question: From where and when was Connally shot, if the same bullet didn't hit both men? Was there a clear view to Connally from the TSBD, Dal-Tex or Records Building at any time?
I would like to hear everybody's opinion on this, especially those who don't believe JFK and Connally were hit by the same bullet.
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October 22, 2009, 12:49:46 AM
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Hi, it probably doesn't matter much but I posted in another thread that if it was more than one bullet they would have had to have stopped the car, pulled at least one of the guys out and shot the other one and then put them back in the car and continued on down the street, that is how unlikely it is that the single bullet theory is not true. The film clearly shows that both men were hit with the same bullet, it is the most obvious thing about the film other than the date. It's not a theory, its a fact just as Myers says, one bullet, does it match up with the TSBD ? Probably, but there is room for error there. It could have theoretically came from the DT building also but it was just one bullet, there is no doubt about that. I can't see anyone having a credible argument against that. Just my opinion. I think that any credible conspiracy theory has to acknowledge that the single bullet theory is fact, otherwise they are probably just reaching. Just my opinion,
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October 22, 2009, 05:04:42 AM
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OH.....That magic bullet must of been a million in one shot that thing was twisting, turning and going through 2 men hitting bone and ended up good condition, simply amazing. The kicker to the whole thing is it had no blood on it. The darn thing was in good enough condition to run ballistics test on to trace back to the Oswald rifle.
I read somewhere what we think was the magic bullet was really a miss it went through a seat and ended up in JC clothes to be found at Parkland. They also said the real magic bullet came from the Del-Tex building and never was found. Most likely what was left of the real magic bullet disappeared when the car was cleaned at Parkland.
Not sure if I believe all of that, but it is out there.
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October 22, 2009, 05:51:18 AM
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For starters, I would like anybody that does not believe in the single bullet theory to answer this question...
How do you explain the "other than perfect circle" entry wound in Connally's back? The wound was slightly oval, evidence of a tumbling bullet entering his back.
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October 23, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
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What about an extreme west window of the TSBD?
Didn't a witness report seeing a man standing in a west window with a rifle at "port arms"?
Yes, that's what I'm thinking too. If Connally was hit by shot that didn't hit JFK, it probably had to come from the west end of the TSBD. I seem to remember the story about a guy seeing a man with a rifle in the west window, I can't remember the name though. Seems like something to check up on, because there were multiple witnesses who described more than one man on the 6th floor.
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October 24, 2009, 11:03:44 AM
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If someone can tell me how they can look at the film at 223 to 235 and tell me how that is not proof positive that one bullet did not hit both men I would be grateful to them, because regardless of the angles and twisting bullets, it happened. It was one single bullet that hit both men there.
Try starting with this thread Mark...... As a guest, you are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginSee if you can get JBC lined up with JFK for the geometry to work......there are many photos/films to place them reasonably accurately around z223. Meyers' animation is not supported by Zapruder.
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October 24, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
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Bill,
Wouldn't the wound only a be a "perfect circle" if it struck at 90 degrees to the body? If is struck, say, from a high point, heading downward, then the wound would be elliptical?
Wouldn't the supposed exit wound in JFK's neck also show evidence of "tumbling" instead of this "small perfect circle" which we all know was there before the traceoctomy?
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October 24, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
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Bill,
Wouldn't the wound only a be a "perfect circle" if it struck at 90 degrees to the body? If is struck, say, from a high point, heading downward, then the wound would be elliptical?
Wouldn't the supposed exit wound in JFK's neck also show evidence of "tumbling" instead of this "small perfect circle" which we all know was there before the traceoctomy? I suspect the answer you will get will be that it only started tumbling after it exited the throat.
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October 25, 2009, 11:22:02 AM
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Bill,
Wouldn't the wound only a be a "perfect circle" if it struck at 90 degrees to the body? If is struck, say, from a high point, heading downward, then the wound would be elliptical?
Ian, A bullet fired from the 3rd floor of the Dal-Tex building (or anywhere behind the limo) would not be considered a "high enough point". To cause an oval shaped entry wound from a bullet that is not tumbling, you would need the bullet entering from a more steep angle. Perhaps the shooter was standing on the back of the limo shooting straight down at the President?
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