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Hi Martin.

This may help to pinpoint some of the Dealey Plaza Witness's in the assassination films.


The first one is Arnold Rowland & his wife on 22/11/63





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Martin/Robin,

I'm no expert but just a thought...could the different perspectives be due to different camera lenses or zoom levels perhaps? They look to me like they could have been taken from similar height levels but the overall frame looks to me like the perspectives are different...?


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Martin.

Check with Gary Mack, but as i understand it this was pre-Assassination.

Notice they are all looking towards Main & Houston corner, i beleive it was because  the ambulance had arrived  for the epileptic.  ?



Is this how you see Willis in Skaggs 4





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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 03:14:19 PM by Robin Unger »
   

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Martin/Robin,

I'm no expert but just a thought...could the different perspectives be due to different camera lenses or zoom levels perhaps? They look to me like they could have been taken from similar height levels but the overall frame looks to me like the perspectives are different...?

Ian, thank you very much for thoughts!
The more brains, the better.

I think a height difference is there.
Compare please the black flag on the SS-100-X in relationship to the brickwork on the building.
But the difference it propably not that much as i expected.

Maybe just an "in the street" and "on the curb" issue.?





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Martin.

Check with Gary Mack, but as i understand it this was pre-Assassination.

Notice they are all looking towards Main & Houston corner, i beleive it was because  the ambulance had arrived  for the epileptic.  ?

Oh, that is new to me.
Thanks.

Is this how you see Willis in Skaggs 4


Robin, exactly hat;;


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Altgens contact sheet main & Houston corner.


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Hughes camera location, this seems very similar to Altgens apparent camera location.

Almost standing in the middle of the Main & Houston street intersection.


Muchmore camera locations (1) and (2)


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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 05:28:08 PM by Robin Unger »
   

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Martin we may be able to use this to plot the camera positions.



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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 05:35:23 PM by Duncan MacRae »
   

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Martin the bronson frame i posted earlier may have been after the ambulance had left.

This is a GIF i did fom the Bronson movie on Grodens DVD .


iT SHOWS THE AMBULANCE MOVING NEAR THE TSBD & DALTEX  ( the frame quality isn't very good however )


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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 05:33:20 PM by Duncan MacRae »
   

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Martin the bronson frame i posted earlier may have been after the ambulance had left.

This is a GIF i did fom the Bronson movie on Grodens DVD .

iT SHOWS THE AMBULANCE MOVING NEAR THE TSBD & DALTEX  ( the frame quality isn't very good however )


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/quaneeri2/Bronson.gif

Thanks a lot mate. Great GIF.
I saved it.

And i always thought Bronson took this picture after the motorcade....
so i learned something. Good.


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Martin we may be able to use this to plot the camera positions.


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/quaneeri2/DealeyPlazaCameraPositions.jpg

Yes, we can do.

Robin, i'am pretty certain that Wilma Bond was here.
Take a look at the big street stripe.



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Great eyes Martin ( big stripe )  yes

Looking at the frame from the discovery channel program, i would place Muchmore in the middle of the word (BOND) just in the centre of the curve

















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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 05:48:49 PM by Robin Unger »
   

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Great eyes Martin ( big stripe )  yes

Looking at the frame from the discovery channel program, i would place Muchmore just above the (o) in Bond
in the middle of the concrete curve.

Robin, take a look at opening sequence of the Muchmore film.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/lbG_XWj8ccU&amp;ap=%2526fmt%3D18&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/lbG_XWj8ccU&amp;ap=%2526fmt%3D18&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1</a>


Can you see the big stripe? It appeared at around 0:03.
Both ladies were very close together. Shoulder at shoulder.

And now we come back to point where i doubted that what we see in this Bond still photograph might be Marie Muchmore.
I bet it is Marie now. The top of the backside of her head.

So, Randy Owen was right on the money.


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Martin.

As Chris pointed out yesterday Bonds final filming position was near the pigeon holes on the wall.

Looking at  this image it now appears that Muchmore and Bond ended up in the same location ( at the pigeon holes in the peristyle wall )







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while i am at it , a special thanks to Chris.

He was kind enough to send me the Discovery Channel DVD " Murder in Dealey Plaza "

That was the original scource for all the Hughes,Towner,Muchmore & Nix  Frames that i have on my website in the Image Galleries.


Also a big thanks to Gary Mack for making the original scource material available.


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Muchmore white line



Martin.

I sent an Email to Randy Owen asking him to look over the thread.
hopefully he will join us


Muchmore Camera movement.








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