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Robin, as far as i know Marie Muchmore and Wilma were close together during the motorcade.
Both worked for the same company and knew each other very well.
They arived together...etc

Is it possible that Marie stood on the same pedestal with Wilma?
On the left?


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She cant be on the ground Martin. !

Look at this one, the camera lense is up over the motorcycle visors and the Limo




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If Skaggs 4 shows Bell up on the platform, we better see Bell filming as Skaggs is in Bell's movie.

Bell's footage starts before the limo turns onto Houston St.

chris


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I think we have the answer Martin



In reference to Bond 1,2



The Clay Shaw trial testimony of Wilma Bond
February 14, 1969


BY MR. ALFORD:
Q: Mrs. Bond, I'm going to show you what for purposes of identification has been marked S-41 and also for purposes of identification marked S-39 and ask you to please examine these two and tell me whether or not they are one and the same scene.

A: They are far as I could see.


Q: Do you see anything on what has been marked S-41, which is a photograph, that is not in S-39, which is not depicted in S-39? Take your time.

A: I am. Yes, it is. You see over here this might not have been developed, I don't know how they were developed but there are some objects in the corner here that are not on here.

Q: Are these the same objects located on the print?

A: No, they are not and it looks like there should have been something out here further.





http://www.jfk-online.com/bondshaw.html


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« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 09:27:16 PM by Robin Unger »
   

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If Skaggs 4 shows Bell up on the platform, we better see Bell filming as Skaggs is in Bell's movie.

Bell's footage starts before the limo turns onto Houston St.

chris


Good work Chris.

I completely missed that.


Thanks for keepinhg me honest, i will have another look.


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To be honest Chris i'm not really sure.

There  may even be two men filming, Bell and the guy next to him.

With the crap resolution i have to work with i can't really tell  ?


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« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 10:12:54 PM by Robin Unger »
   

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Robin,

Wilma Bond and Marie Muchmore stood on the sidewalk to photograph JFK on Houston. For reference, look at the Bell film of JFK turning off Main onto Houston and note how much higher his view was from atop the pedestal.

Gary Mack






Thanks Gary


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Martin

Note the cop in the far left, we can see him in Skaggs 4

Who is the mystery woman ?

Is this the back of the head we see in Bond 1 ?
Is this Marie Muchmore ?


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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 10:38:59 AM by Robin Unger »
   

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Robin,

Wilma Bond and Marie Muchmore stood on the sidewalk to photograph JFK on Houston. For reference, look at the Bell film of JFK turning off Main onto Houston and note how much higher his view was from atop the pedestal.

Gary Mack

Thanks Gary


Yes. Thank you Chris and Gary. Thats a convincing argument.

Thanks for your help. Sometimes it's better ponder for longer instead of too enthusiast.   I mean just me Robin.

We have to review it.

I can't help myself but her camera lens is really high.
1. She was tall?
2. She stood on the little pool border?



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Thanks Martin.


Yes i agree.

For my part i always appreciate someone like Chris reviewing my posts.
it helps to keep me honest and on track.


That was the reason i posted this


There is one other possibility Martin.

Just so we have all the bases covered.


Could bond be on the ground, holding her camera "high up in the air" so as to put the lense above the persons head in front. ?



if that were the case, we should see a camera sticking up in the crowd in Skaggs 4


But we don't. ?





Best not to get too carried away, with what we may consider a NEW discovery, until it has been peer reviewed and passed the test.  







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« Last Edit: October 19, 2009, 11:04:25 AM by Robin Unger »
   

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Robin, i think we have to consider that Marie and Wilma are obscured in Skaggs 4.
Most likely behind Kellerman, Greer and the windshield.
Skaggs ducked down a bit (or was short) and we don't know exactly when he pulled the trigger.


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Agreed Martin

We appear to be running in to a "DEAD-END" with the Bond Muchmore issue   


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Is this Phil Willis in Skaggs4?

Close to his daughter?



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Willis family seen standing together in Bronson.

Click on the image to view full size:


In the image below Linda Willis is seen wearing her gold dress which was donated to the sixth floor museum.



On the far right side standing in the street we see a man in a dark suit with a camera bag slung over his left shoulder.

I will speculate and say that it may be Ike Altgens, Hughes, Bothun  ??


My best guess is that it is Altgens. !




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Willis family seen standing together in Bronson.

Click on the image to view full size:


In the image below Linda Willis is seen wearing her gold dress which was donated to the sixth floor museum.



On the far right side standing in the street we see a man in a dark suit with a camera bag slung over his left shoulder.

I will speculate and say that it may be Ike Altgens, Hughes, Bothun  ??


My best guess is that it is Altgens. !


Thanks Robin.

I don't know when this Bronson image was taken in the aftermath.
As far as i'am concerned Altgens left the scene pretty quick to develope his images.
But the clothes fits.

Does he have a light colored camera bag?


Here a Willis/Bond comparison.
I think the camera height difference is considerable.

Wilma Bond must be standing just a few yards north from Phil Willis.
Damn...where is she?



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